My Obamacare Taxes

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  1. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    It is projected that 80-100% of businesses under 50 people will do so and 30-40% of those above 50 employees.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Just as soon as they can find enough stupid people to replace the mass exodus of their current employees.
     
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Thanks to Obamanomics, the economy sucks so bad nobody would give up a halfway decent job.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    BP, the non-existent tax you fear amounts to more than you would pay for full family coverage since it's subsidized by your employee. Any reputable financial adviser would point out the error in funding a 401k or student loans ahead of basic healthcare for your wife and children. Lack of healthcare is the #1 cause of personal bankruptcies in America. 1 illness in your family could easily cost you millions of dollars, which I assume you don't have in your 401k.

    If you were correct though, bankruptcy would still not be an option for you since it the IRS will be the enforcing/collecting agency and all IRS debts are exempt from bankruptcy claims.
     
  5. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    I do not disagree, but all this is befalling me after the fact. I'm trapped.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Just claim that you're here illegally and all of your healthcare will be provided for you.
     
  7. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    This shit is a joke...... f'n america....
     
  8. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You are trapped by a tax that you don't have to pay?

    Hmm

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    One great thing about the web, the bullshit is unlimited in volume and scope.

    To be fair, PPACA is pretty complicated. But lots of people have axes to grind on this subject, so there is a lot of deliberate misinformation out there.

    barfo
     
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    From what I understand, America sucks, has sucked for a long time, and will continue to suck.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    no, you have it wrong. What the liberals have done and are doing to America make it suck
     
  12. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    "liberals." And you got it right.
     
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    LOL! Don't worry, you won't have to declare bankruptcy. The ACA is just a weak workaround of you conservatives' hatred of helping others... we'll get to a single payer system someday, then you won't have to worry. Our healthcare system has been fucked forever- now we begin improving it, reducing costs, etc.

    Nevermind that this is a Republican plan- the black guy is evil!
     
  14. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    When my kid was born in 1982, it cost $2800 for the deluxe birthing room at an excellent hospital, and the whole 9 yards.

    The more govt. has been involved, the higher the cost has become.
     
  15. barfo

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    How much more is government involved in your childbirth today? Was the $2800 what you paid, or the total cost? How much did this year's kid cost you? What's the origin of the phrase 'the whole 9 yards'?

    barfo
     
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  17. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    In 1981 we had our daughter at a birthing cabin in the woods and the total cost, paid for my me, was about $900. I did a LeBoyer bath and all that stuff.
     
  18. Denny Crane

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    Total cost. That was the bill for 2 days, the birthing suite, doctor bill, nurses, etc.

    The birthing suite was like a deluxe hotel room. It cost quite a bit more than the lower cost options.

    Something like this:
    http://www.cedars-sinai.edu/Patient...gy/Patient-Guide/Deluxe-Maternity-Suites.aspx

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124165279035493687.html

    Bringing my newborn son home was a joy. Figuring out the hospital bill wasn't.

    Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles provided excellent care and thoughtful treatment during my uncomplicated traditional delivery in December. Then the invoices started coming. The hospital sent one for me, and another for my baby. The doctors billed separately. The total charge for three days: $36,625.



    (Costs $3100 or $3700/day on top of doctor bill, nurses, medicines, care for the child, etc.)
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    You can get $50,000 for a white baby on the internet so you're still almost $14,000 ahead!

    Sell the kid, invest the profits, retire early!
     
  20. barfo

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    Ok. So what part of that is government's fault, and why?

    barfo
     

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