Haynes full of shit (no Nic 4 years, 46.5 Million) (confirmed)

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  1. Mediocre Man

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    Like we did with Hickson
     
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    they didn't trade them at the Draft, which is normally where those kinds of contracts get moved. It's the last chance to reduce salary before the moratorium. So, say, some team that was 4M into the lux tax could trade a 5M player for Webster, waive Webster, and remove 4.1M from their cap and not be in the tax anymore.

    They must've gotten a whiff that someone might want to make that type of trade in the FA period, so they negotiate it with Webster and Miller to move the date a bit. You'd think that a player would want to be a FA right now while there's money instead of being waived today and clearing next week when everyone's done spending, but Miller's going to retire anyway and I don't know Webster's motivation. But the same mechanism still applies. Technically, if we wanted to trade nothing but draft picks for Dwight Howard, we could trade Wes to MIN for Webster, waive Webster and gain an extra 6M in cap space.
     
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    I'm guessing they pushd back the dates to explore trade options once free agency hit. Could take back mroe by trading the two of them than if they just had the cap space. With space, they could only take back that amount, not the amount plus whatever percent125, 150,whatever. So if they trade 10 in salary of those 2, they can bring back 12-15. But if they just had the cap space, they can only bring back 10
     
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    Which is what I said.
     
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    Correct.
     
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    I know, I was reiterating
     
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    What about my retirment question?
     
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    i was thinking this same thing a few days ago, why a player would voluntarily extend this window makes little sense, maybe webby thinks there is a slight chance someone trades for him and doesnt waive him? i would think he is basically a 2 million per year type these days, so he really doesnt have much to lose, im sure he can scrape a minimum deal at least
     
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    Did we ever renounce Hickson? I haven't heard that we renounced Felton either.
     
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    I was thinking maybe Webster was willing to get the goodwill of the Wolves because they are interested in signing him back once they finish their other free agency moves.

    Edit: Another idea is Webster had such an inflated sense of self worth he thought a team would consider trading for him and keeping him at his full salary.
     
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    Yesterday Haynes was on 1080 and said "The other day, I talked to his agent Mr. Ndiaye"

    With their blogs, wasn't this EXTREMELY obvious?
     
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    It's pretty obvious that Ndiaye is playing Haynes and Jaynes like the Pied Piper.

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    Retired players still have to go through waivers.... therefore you still have the 7-day period.

    Does anyone know when Webster's contract gets fully guaranteed? I would assume it would be 7/15 - just so he has time to sign on with a new team. Honestly, if I was Webster's agent - I would have only moved the date back to 7/4.....so if he is waived, he would be available to sign a contract when FA officially opens.
     
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    I have heard from Minny fans it is the end of July.
     
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    Minni trying to create cap room with trades

     
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    They need to find 6.3M worth to get Batum at 4/46.5M.
    [video=youtube;1-ZpHr5l0U0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ZpHr5l0U0[/video]
     
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    That seems like a Kahn move -- "sign" Batum to an offer-sheet that you don't have the cap for at the time.
     
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    Will NIC play in the Olympics with no signed contract? I thought he was avoiding their practice games (anyone know for sure?) until he had a deal done. I am not sure if this is correct but I have to believe he is starting to get pissed about this Minny situation.
     
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