OT: Howard to Lakers getting closer?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BLAZINGGIANTS, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. donkiez

    donkiez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2009
    Messages:
    4,235
    Likes Received:
    3,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well I would put Dallas on the super city list. SAS, has only been a title winner due to Duncan, there were other factors but Ducan was what put them over the top. OKC has a shot at making a good run for the next few years also.

    The whole Minny issue baffles me because of this NBA super city set up. While the rich get richer teams like Utah, Portland, Minnesota and Memphis just keep fucking with eatchother.
     
  2. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    21,460
    Likes Received:
    27,621
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The GP/Malone experiment has to be called a failure because they made it clear anything short of a title was a failure. I remember that finals and one of the ESPN writers saying if Detroit did EVERYTHING right they might win one game ... but don't count on it. Damn, I didn't cheer so hard since the Blazers were in the Finals.
     
  3. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    14,356
    Likes Received:
    14,432
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master of Xen Foro
    Location:
    La Grande, OR
    Instead of SuperCities, it may be better to think of States:
    New York, Illinois (Chicago), California, and Texas.

    Of course, that isn't particularly surprising as that applies to a lot of things outside of basketball.

    edit: One more thing. The thing the other teams have going for them is the draft lottery. You can get a superstar to play for you if you draft him, and get multiple high picks to go with that superstar. That is exactly what OKC is doing, and exactly why we'd be on top if not for injuries.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2012
  4. NJNetz

    NJNetz BBW Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2004
    Messages:
    14,413
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    48
    If he gets traded to the Lakers we might as well just have a 5-team league.
     
  5. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area
    What would LA have to give up for him?
     
  6. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,291
    Likes Received:
    5,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    I'm not worried. By the time we're ready to challenge in the playoffs, he'll be long past his prime. He has a lot of mileage on his body. Of course, then Kevin Durant and Derrick Rose will force their way to the L*kers and the cycle will repeat once more.
     
  7. NJNetz

    NJNetz BBW Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2004
    Messages:
    14,413
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Well, Dwight has made it clear that he did not want to be traded to the Lakers. He wanted Brooklyn. Of course now it is between playing in Orlando (or sitting out according to one tweet I read) or playing for the Lakers for multiple years. Orlando probably should of made a deal with the Nets where they would of gotten a better package (IMO) than what the Lakers will give. But I don't think Orlando ever intended to trade Howard to Brooklyn because they wanted to spite him in any way possible.
     
  8. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    14,356
    Likes Received:
    14,432
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master of Xen Foro
    Location:
    La Grande, OR
    I keep thinking about a line from the movie "Money Ball" about how the Padres were a farm team for the Yankees.

    IMHO, the amnesty thing has really screwed up competitive balance even more.
     
  9. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,684
    Likes Received:
    2,779
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    If the Lakers have to move Gasol and Bynum for him (I don't know what it'll take, I'm just saying) I don't think that any conspiracy theories are needed. The Lakers have been able to almost acquire Chris Paul and now maybe get Dwight Howard... why? Because they have good pieces to trade.

    Bynum is one of the best centers in the NBA and he's young. The Lakers would be giving up value to get it back. It might be a good move for them, but it's not like they'd be getting Howard for free.

    Ed O.
     
  10. drexlersdad

    drexlersdad SABAS

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    4,825
    Likes Received:
    255
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    NEW New Hampshire
    very interesting, hadnt thought of that angle...seems kinda self defeating, but what should they do...join forces?
     
  11. drexlersdad

    drexlersdad SABAS

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    4,825
    Likes Received:
    255
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    NEW New Hampshire
    i really think houston giving up

    royce white
    terrence jones
    jeremy lamb
    and a few #1s

    is the way to go for orlando

    they arent winning a title with bynum instead of dwight
     
  12. NJNetz

    NJNetz BBW Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2004
    Messages:
    14,413
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    48
    They wouldn't be getting Dwight for free, but they aren't losing much. Gasol is getting softer and softer each season. Good riddance if anything. And while Bynum is a good player, he isn't anywhere close to being as good as Dwight. And he still remains injury prone and has a beyond shitty attitude.
     
  13. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,684
    Likes Received:
    2,779
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Bynum is way better than any of those guys and he plays a position of scarcity. He gets paid a lot more, of course, but getting mid-firsts is significantly easier than getting a franchise quality center like Bynum.

    Ed O.
     
  14. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    50,346
    Likes Received:
    22,531
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Acquire stars.

    {Poasted via palm pilot}
     
  15. Shooter

    Shooter Unanimously Great

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,484
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    advertising
    Location:
    Blazerville
    Sure, but how long before your "superstar" wants to leave town and head for one of the "hotspots"? It happens all the time.
     
  16. Shooter

    Shooter Unanimously Great

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,484
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    advertising
    Location:
    Blazerville
    And why do they always have good pieces to trade? Because the better players want to go there, and often find a way to make it happen.
     
  17. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    14,356
    Likes Received:
    14,432
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master of Xen Foro
    Location:
    La Grande, OR
    Even being lucky isn't a riskfree proposition, but you have a long time to sell your town.
     
  18. chris_in_pdx

    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,808
    Likes Received:
    1,881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Those teams had holdovers from the old system. In the new paradigm, players like Duncan and Nowitzki would have been lured to large market teams much earlier in their career. See: Kevin Durant in a few years after he finds he won't win a title in OKC.
     
  19. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    14,356
    Likes Received:
    14,432
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master of Xen Foro
    Location:
    La Grande, OR
    Bynum has only 1 year left and he hasn't said he'd re-sign.
    Also, Orlando is wanting at dumping contracts and getting picks. Only Houston offers both of these.
     
  20. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,902
    Likes Received:
    22,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    Troy Murphy, Goudelock, and a protected second rounder probably
     

Share This Page