I'm fully aware of how they were kicked out of different areas of hte nation (because their leader was a con man). But I really doubt many people care about mormonism now. Many people do care about blacks (asians, mexicans, and people who don't look like Western Europeans).
well, it was obviously because he was a socialist...er..nazi...er...lawyer...er...raised taxes...er...invaded another country...er...was from Hawaii..er....helped save GM/Chrysler...er...OBL was killed under his watch...er... Oh, I know. it's because he lied and single handily ruined the economy.
FWIW, Chris is correct with regard to racism vs Obama. I hear it, see it, deal with it first hand often. To think that the few right leaning (bending) friends I have are the only ones that try to veil their distaste for Obama as anything more than racially motivated would be stupid on my part. The racism in the Tea Party and in parts of the Republican party certainly and obviously exists. And it's disgusting. Not disgusting because he's actually black, but disgusting because it's so desperate and lacks any semblance of creativity or originality. I was once a registered Republican. I cannot associate with them, or the Dem's, ever again. They're all sick. And none of them are interested in unity and understanding which is the only hope we have. Fuck it. Keep fighting to "be right" - It's all that matters to American's these days.
i tried to address this earlier, but i think it got lost in what I said. There are obviously people who dislike Obama because of other reasons than his race. Most sane people who dislike him, dislike him for valid reasons (in the sense that it's actually thought out reasons. They may be reasons others disagree with, but they can articulate those reasons). But it's undeniable that people dislike him because he's a black person. Just as if he was Mexican (in the case of Mitt, Mexican enough to "look Mexican"), or whatever. Why is it people say "I want my country back" or have the witch doctor posters of Obama, or call him a "muslim"? I think most Muslims actually look nothing like him, and actually would look more like Mitt or Romney. I think most Muslims would be from Asia/North Africa. I'm sure someone else can make that point better. I don't doubt that there are people who make fun of Romney because he's Mormon, but most people make fun of him because he's such a wishy washy candidate and he's the John Kerry of personality.
Well thank you. That's quite the statement considering the company we keep on S2. I've always respected you but I also have to believe you're exaggerating just a tad.
I just couldn't follow the logic. So because you have racist friends, all people who disagree with the policies of President Obama are racist? As someone who has been to Tea Party functions, I can say I have NEVER seen someone oppose President Obama because of his race. The only people I've seen bring up race are those who agree with the President's policies. The people I've met who oppose President Obama oppose him because of his policies. The fact he's half-black is generally viewed as a positive, not a negative. So...neener. And what is the comment about if someone is registered as either a Democrat or Republican, you can't be around them? There are plenty of decent, well meaning people in either party. Discriminating against someone simply because they're a member of a political party seems bizarre. You'll be happy to know I'm a registered Independent, so you needn't run from me like I have cooties.
Let's completely forget the racism argument here and address the death threats from a different view point. Isn't it a very bad thing that he is receiving so many death threats, and yet he was elected by a majority? Doesn't that say there are some people who can't handle the opinions of others at the very least?
What? How can my post be taken at all to embrace death threats against the President? Crazies are crazies. I'm not denying there are racists out there, but to say the reason people oppose President Obama because he's half black is madness.
Okay, I felt you didn't concede this point the first time it was brought up. But there are MORE crazies than usual. Clearly a minority of republicans against Obama are because of his skintone.
How do you know it's Republicans that don't like Obama because he's half-black? How do we know they're not Independents or Democrats? The answer is you don't.
The mental gymnastics that you contort yourself though denying the obvious is admittedly impressive. Kudos.
\ there are millions of racists who wont vote for obama because he is black and yes, they are mostly not democrats common sense
Congratulations on finding a few idiots in a country of 310MM people. Again, how do you know they're Republicans? "Common sense" is a weak answer. Robert Byrd was a Kleagle, and we was no member of the GOP.
Sweet. Prove it. Prove that it's Republicans that hate President Obama because he's half black. That these people would support him wholeheartedly if he had exactly the same policies, but was 100% white.
so you are saying that democrats are racist, and thats why they voted him into the presidency? noooo it was all the democrats who were so angry that he won that they started making and buying racist bumper stickers right? COMMON SENSE i get the whole devils advocate thing, just like the batum thread, but....
I'm saying that racists weren't going to vote for him, regardless of party. How do you know all the racists were Republicans? You fail to grasp this simple concept.
Maybe they're all infatuated with Jody Foster. Seriously. You can't know what motivates someone to threaten the president.