Paul was a dissapointment? What were you expecting? He is very similar to JKidd but better scorer. He can run fastbreak better than Hinrich, he can run offense far better than Hinrich, and he makes smart plays and overall is a very gifted pass first PG on a team full of shoot first stars.If you are expecting a Steve Nash where he gets tons of layups and jumpshots, you will be dissapointed. He is not that type of PG. He gets a good number of points, but what people rave about so much is in his passing/playmaking.
What I saw from the whole game:- I loved the fact that they played defense and caused so many turnovers. The reason alot of people don't watch these games, is because they used to not play defense at all..I love what Coach K has enstilled into their minds, and I like the defensive mind set.- Chris Paul is for real..He did exactly what he was supposed to do, played solid defense, made some great plays, setting up his teamates, scored a bit for himself...- Chris Bosh...I guess it was just me, but when I saw him in he looked clueless, and he couldnt finish..- I really was impressed by Battier, he showed he would give up his body to get the ball, and thats a good sign..He shouldn't be one of the guys cut. - Carmelo..He impressed me again, he made a couple long range shots right in their faces, and he was one of the more effective scorers on the US team- Joe Johnson, he might've impressed me the most. He had that sick crossover for the reverse lay-in and the foul..He moved the ball around, had a steal or two, and he was very good when he drove to the basket, he found ways to get the ball in the basket..I'm not really sure who I would cut at this time..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Aug 3 2006, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Peter John Ramos, I believe he's still under contract with the Wizards.</div>he is under contract but might get cut, he isn't that good :no1:
Dream Team II?Honestly, this team compares to the original true dream team..A+ CoachPlayers who want to winPlayer that are multi-talentedCan dominate a game enough to be able to absolutely show off but at the same time still hustle the whole game
Well that game was complete domination. But in the beginning USA started out cold. And what's up with Chris Bosh shooting three pointers?
the international 3 is just like a mid range shot in the nba, so its not reallyl out of chris boshs range. i really liked hinrichs defnese in that game, he shut down arroyo when he was in there, i thing bowen and maybe jamison should be cut for the championship games, or maybe brad miller, he doesnt seem to fit what the team wants to do.
<span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">ATTENTION TO EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO DOWNLOAD THIS GAME</span>I found this on mixmakers, someone capped the game. He has the 1st half file up and ready to download for everyone, the 2nd half is currently uploading. Here it is:http://64.72.127.170/forums/showthread.php...9975#post779975Enjoy!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Aug 4 2006, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Paul is averaging 16PPG on 43% to Kirks 16PPG on 42%. Kirk is a better 3pt shooter, and team needs that, but on a team full of players that want to carry scoring load, a pure PG that can run the fastbreak to near perfection is almost necassary to be successful. Paul does that, Hinrich doesn't.And Hinrich started 2nd half because he was a part of the 2nd rotation. Bron, Melo and Wade didn't play in the whole quarter.</div>I don't expect Hinrich's passing to be as good as Paul but Hinrich is better at defense and 3 point shots and that is also very important in the International Game. Especially with the zones coming. Paul might be the better player in the nba but in International I think Hinrich is the key. Both will play though but I would give Hinrich the start because of this. Hinrich might be the best defensive point guard in the league.
The Starting lineup to me should be the same as it was last night except change in Howard for Bosh. I dont know if it was just me, but Bosh didnt play very well at all last night. Howard was getting rebounds on the offensive and defensive end and was also finishing his shot attempts with authority. The 1st group that started last night was clearly more athletic and faster than the 2nd group. The only thing the first group was missing was a consistent shooter from the outside. If Hinrich could shoot as well as he did last night, for the entire tournament, I wouldnt be surprised to see him start some games. Hinrich also played alot harder on defense than Chris Paul did. He was also more effective. Arroyo didnt have nearly as good as a 2nd half. Although, that might just be because he knew they didnt have a chance to win anyways.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Aug 4 2006, 05:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hinrich led the fastbreak well everytime I remember. You are underrating Hinrich's point guard skills. Paul to me was a disappointment in this game. Maybe it was a bad game and next game he'll be better.</div>as i could remember chris paul had a excellent game,
I think it should bePG - Chris PaulSG - Dwyane WadeSF - Lebron JamesPF - Elton BrandC - Dwight Howard6th man - Carmelo AnthonyPersonally i think Bosh didn't do so well last night. All he did was basically jack up a few 3's in the beginning and then just charge to the basket and get stopped. Elton Brand is much bigger and stronger. Dwight is also an excellent finisher down low. He sometimes is undeniable.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nemesis @ Aug 4 2006, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think it should bePG - Chris PaulSG - Dwyane WadeSF - Lebron JamesPF - Elton BrandC - Dwight Howard6th man - Carmelo AnthonyPersonally i think Bosh didn't do so well last night. All he did was basically jack up a few 3's in the beginning and then just charge to the basket and get stopped. Elton Brand is much bigger and stronger. Dwight is also an excellent finisher down low. He sometimes is undeniable.</div>I like that lineup alot. Although, I would hate to leave Carmelo on the bench after how well he played in the first quarter of last nights game. I think that the lineups honestly depend on match ups. If the US is playing a smaller team, this lineup would be great. 2 big men that can rebound the basketball and that can score around the bucket.
Guys, just remember one thing: This team plays in waves, meaning that there are basically 2 groups that play in whole quarters while other group sits. This is to show great variety against opponents and to keep everyone fresh. Here is how I would do the team come 2008G: PaulSG: WadeSF: BronPF: Amare (assuming he comes back somewhat like his old self)C: Dwight HowardSixth man of this team: CarmeloNext groupG: HinrichSG: Kobe BryantSF: Joe JohnsonPF: Elton BrandC: Brad MillerSixth man: Gilbert ArenasI put Kobe on 2nd team due to the 2nd team somewhat lacks scoring, and his great defense and hard work fits him in with the other guys. On the other hand, Melo could also take that spot and Kobe could be 6th man of the 1st team, but outside of Melo/Kobe that is how I'd do it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Aug 4 2006, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Guys, just remember one thing: This team plays in waves, meaning that there are basically 2 groups that play in whole quarters while other group sits. This is to show great variety against opponents and to keep everyone fresh. Here is how I would do the team come 2008G: PaulSG: WadeSF: BronPF: Amare (assuming he comes back somewhat like his old self)C: Dwight HowardSixth man of this team: CarmeloNext groupG: HinrichSG: Kobe BryantSF: Joe JohnsonPF: Elton BrandC: Brad MillerSixth man: Gilbert ArenasI put Kobe on 2nd team due to the 2nd team somewhat lacks scoring, and his great defense and hard work fits him in with the other guys. On the other hand, Melo could also take that spot and Kobe could be 6th man of the 1st team, but outside of Melo/Kobe that is how I'd do it.</div>That is unfair to say about the playing in waves considering the US had only played against Puerto Rico. In close games, Coach K will play the best players. Of course you want to get everybody playing time when you are winning. Also, I dont think that Amare would be in the first group. I thinkt hat they would go small ball and put Kobe in there and put Bron at the PF spot. Where is Chris Bosh btw?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Aug 4 2006, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That is unfair to say about the playing in waves considering the US had only played against Puerto Rico. In close games, Coach K will play the best players. Of course you want to get everybody playing time when you are winning. Also, I dont think that Amare would be in the first group. I thinkt hat they would go small ball and put Kobe in there and put Bron at the PF spot. Where is Chris Bosh btw?</div>Bosh didnt do much last night, so we'll have to see more of him to see which group to include him in..Right now though I'm leaning toward cutting, Bowen, or Miller
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Aug 4 2006, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bosh didnt do much last night, so we'll have to see more of him to see which group to include him in..Right now though I'm leaning toward cutting, Bowen, or Miller</div>yeah, Bowen doesnt fit in with the team what so ever. The team is already playing good defense so i really dont think they have any need for him. I guess it is kinda early to tell. We will have to see how he does against some of the better euro players.Also, that was one game for Chris Bosh. It is unfair to totally dawg the guy after one bad game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Aug 4 2006, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, Bowen doesnt fit in with the team what so ever. The team is already playing good defense so i really dont think they have any need for him. I guess it is kinda early to tell. We will have to see how he does against some of the better euro players.Also, that was one game for Chris Bosh. It is unfair to totally dawg the guy after one bad game.</div>I know - I was impressed by their great defense. And thats why I said, we shouldn't make a desicion on which rotation to put Bosh in, he's played in 1 game..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Aug 4 2006, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know - I was impressed by their great defense. And thats why I said, we shouldn't make a desicion on which rotation to put Bosh in, he's played in 1 game..</div>o ok, i guess i just read it wrong. I originally questioned why Bosh wasnt there because he was neither in the first group of 6 guys OR the second group of 6 guys.
