<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Aug 4 2006, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That is unfair to say about the playing in waves considering the US had only played against Puerto Rico. In close games, Coach K will play the best players. Of course you want to get everybody playing time when you are winning. Also, I dont think that Amare would be in the first group. I thinkt hat they would go small ball and put Kobe in there and put Bron at the PF spot. Where is Chris Bosh btw?</div>It seems like the direction they want to go in is to play in waves, to throw different teams at you and to get everyone fairly equal rest. I am sure if we are down due to 2nd group not playing well (which I highly doubt will happen, this team yesterday was incredible) that coach K will do his job and put in the rotation that works the best.I doubt coach K won't have 2 big men. Amare is an extremely athletic (well, hopefully nowadays) big man who can run floor (does it all the time with Suns) and play in post. If bron abused that guy in the post, imagine what Amare could do in international ball. And Bosh I just don't think fits in very well with this team. He seems to be stretching a bit too far out of his range and he jsut doesn't look comfortable. Brad Miller is a shooting big man similar to Bosh in that respect but knows his range and makes his play worthwhile. Not sold on Bosh yet.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Aug 4 2006, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">ATTENTION TO EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO DOWNLOAD THIS GAME</span>I found this on mixmakers, someone capped the game. He has the 1st half file up and ready to download for everyone, the 2nd half is currently uploading. Here it is:http://64.72.127.170/forums/showthread.php...9975#post779975Enjoy!</div>Wow you're the bomb CB32! :worthy:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Aug 4 2006, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">ATTENTION TO EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO DOWNLOAD THIS GAME</span>I found this on mixmakers, someone capped the game. He has the 1st half file up and ready to download for everyone, the 2nd half is currently uploading. Here it is:http://64.72.127.170/forums/showthread.php...9975#post779975Enjoy!</div>wowowow you have no idea how much i love you right now if you can give that guy karma pointa and lots of em!!!!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Aug 4 2006, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It seems like the direction they want to go in is to play in waves, to throw different teams at you and to get everyone fairly equal rest. I am sure if we are down due to 2nd group not playing well (which I highly doubt will happen, this team yesterday was incredible) that coach K will do his job and put in the rotation that works the best.I doubt coach K won't have 2 big men. Amare is an extremely athletic (well, hopefully nowadays) big man who can run floor (does it all the time with Suns) and play in post. If bron abused that guy in the post, imagine what Amare could do in international ball. And Bosh I just don't think fits in very well with this team. He seems to be stretching a bit too far out of his range and he jsut doesn't look comfortable. Brad Miller is a shooting big man similar to Bosh in that respect but knows his range and makes his play worthwhile. Not sold on Bosh yet.</div>How can you tell after 1 televised game? So you are saying that if one player from a group isnt doing so well, that they will just keep him in because they have a "set rotation". That is basically what you are saying. Amare has been basically out of professional sports for a year now and he is not guaranteeing the league that he will be back to 100 percent. I dont think you can put him over Brand or Bosh who just had amazing years. Bosh played one game and you are already putting him out of the top 12 rotation? He obviously started for a reason last night. If he comes back in game 2 and has a great game, and some of the other guys that did well last night dont do as well in the next game, the lineups will be totally different? I think that the coaches will keep the same starting lineup no matter how the players are playing. And as for the 5 in and 5 out tactic, it doesnt work. If a player is hot, the coach will be smart enough to leave him in the game. This wasnt used last night because it wasnt needed to be used. They had control of the game the entire game even though it was close in the first quarter and in the beginning of the 2nd. The US dominated the tempo and obviously Puerto Rico couldnt keep up with them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nemesis @ Aug 4 2006, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think it should bePG - Chris PaulSG - Dwyane WadeSF - Lebron JamesPF - Elton BrandC - Dwight Howard6th man - Carmelo AnthonyPersonally i think Bosh didn't do so well last night. All he did was basically jack up a few 3's in the beginning and then just charge to the basket and get stopped. Elton Brand is much bigger and stronger. Dwight is also an excellent finisher down low. He sometimes is undeniable.</div>I like the quicker lineup better and plus that lineup has no 3 point shooters in it. Teams will play zone daring United States to shoot from outside and clogging the middle.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Aug 4 2006, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How can you tell after 1 televised game? So you are saying that if one player from a group isnt doing so well, that they will just keep him in because they have a "set rotation". That is basically what you are saying. Amare has been basically out of professional sports for a year now and he is not guaranteeing the league that he will be back to 100 percent. I dont think you can put him over Brand or Bosh who just had amazing years. Bosh played one game and you are already putting him out of the top 12 rotation? He obviously started for a reason last night. If he comes back in game 2 and has a great game, and some of the other guys that did well last night dont do as well in the next game, the lineups will be totally different? I think that the coaches will keep the same starting lineup no matter how the players are playing. And as for the 5 in and 5 out tactic, it doesnt work. If a player is hot, the coach will be smart enough to leave him in the game. This wasnt used last night because it wasnt needed to be used. They had control of the game the entire game even though it was close in the first quarter and in the beginning of the 2nd. The US dominated the tempo and obviously Puerto Rico couldnt keep up with them.</div>Not just 1 televised game, it's something they've been saying from the start. I am sure that if things aren't working they will switch up and sub in based on team's needs, but basically from what I've gathered from what people have said and of course this game, they like to play in waves. They will not neglect the 10th, 11th and 12th man like they did in Atehn's, this team is going to be very balanced.I was talking about 2008 Olympics with that roster, and by then I am assuming he will be at least 90% of what he used to be. I feel that even at 90% he fits in a lot better with the run and gun type offense that first rotation plays with. He also gets the rebounds Brand and Bosh gets, and also plays good D, so I don't see the problem. The 5 in 5 out tactic DOES work. They were RIGHT with us in the 1st quarter, despite USA having the superstars in. 2nd quarter USA put in the 2nd rotation which had a totally different look from the 1st rotation, and it appeared as though they totally confused PR with their great D, hustle, and 3pt shooting, which was great contrast to first quarter. They went up by 13, and in 3rd quarter USA changed their look again to the 1st team, and since PR was probably expecting the type of play of 2nd quarter, they got ran out of the building. Of course near ends of games they will leave in best players, but I honestly believe for at least first 2 quarters he will have 2 set rotations, and then from there decide what to do in 2nd half depending on how each player is playing and what team needs (defense or high scoring). Even though yesterday was just exhibition I love how the USA played and how it was coached.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Aug 4 2006, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the quicker lineup better and plus that lineup has no 3 point shooters in it. Teams will play zone daring United States to shoot from outside and clogging the middle.</div>If were playing internation rules, 3 pointers aren't NBA 3 pointers..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Aug 4 2006, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If were playing internation rules, 3 pointers aren't NBA 3 pointers..</div>Yeah, the line is a little more than an inch closer I think. It's still a long shot. I don't think we need to start the shooters but they need to be out there a lot.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Aug 4 2006, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If were playing internation rules, 3 pointers aren't NBA 3 pointers..</div>Yeah I've heard that a couple of times and really don't think it is a good shot for any of those players you put in that starting lineup.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Aug 4 2006, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I've heard that a couple of times and really don't think it is a good shot for any of those players you put in that starting lineup.</div>I think Chris Paul, and Dwayne Wade can hit those shots, and I am positive LeBron can consistently hit that 3 point shot..
i thought the 3 was only at like 20 feet or something in international play, thats like 3 more inches right? so it just midrange!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Aug 4 2006, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not just 1 televised game, it's something they've been saying from the start. I am sure that if things aren't working they will switch up and sub in based on team's needs, but basically from what I've gathered from what people have said and of course this game, they like to play in waves. They will not neglect the 10th, 11th and 12th man like they did in Atehn's, this team is going to be very balanced.I was talking about 2008 Olympics with that roster, and by then I am assuming he will be at least 90% of what he used to be. I feel that even at 90% he fits in a lot better with the run and gun type offense that first rotation plays with. He also gets the rebounds Brand and Bosh gets, and also plays good D, so I don't see the problem. The 5 in 5 out tactic DOES work. They were RIGHT with us in the 1st quarter, despite USA having the superstars in. 2nd quarter USA put in the 2nd rotation which had a totally different look from the 1st rotation, and it appeared as though they totally confused PR with their great D, hustle, and 3pt shooting, which was great contrast to first quarter. They went up by 13, and in 3rd quarter USA changed their look again to the 1st team, and since PR was probably expecting the type of play of 2nd quarter, they got ran out of the building. Of course near ends of games they will leave in best players, but I honestly believe for at least first 2 quarters he will have 2 set rotations, and then from there decide what to do in 2nd half depending on how each player is playing and what team needs (defense or high scoring). Even though yesterday was just exhibition I love how the USA played and how it was coached.</div>I might agree with you that they are going to go in somewhat of a wave but did you notice that in the first quarter how they substituted out a couple guys every 2 minutes. The same guys came in after 2 minutes but did you notice that? I just thought that was a bit interesting. And as for neglecting the later guys on the team, it will happen. Bruce Bowen didnt get much playing time last night and that was in a blow out. In tight games, he isnt going to get much playing time at all unless there is one guard on that team totally lighting it up.As for Amare, we dont know that he will ever be healthy again. With his type of injury, some players dont ever regain what they had. I hope that he will for basketballs sake but i wouldnt count on us ever seeing what he did in the 2004 playoffs against the Spurs. And by that time, Dwight Howard will be better than him anyway and Chris Bosh will be just as good. I think that a 100 percent Dwight or Bosh or Brand for that matter would be better than a 90 percent Amare.You can say all you want about how well the 2nd team did but do you want to know why? It is because the US team got the Puerto Rico team tired by the first quarter. As hard as that is to believe. The first group went non stop running and totally got the team from puerto rico tired. The first group of the US team didnt play bad defense at all in the first quarter if you watched closley. The Puerto Rico team was just making their shots because they still had energy. If you watched the whole game(which I am assuming you did) you would notice how in the 2nd half, all of Puerto Ricos wide open looks werent going down. In the first quarter, they were making everything. Can you say fatigue? I know i can. The US team may get away with going 5 in 5 out for the first half but in a close game, they are going to need their best players in the game in crunch time.
