Lance Armstrong stripped of Tour de France titles

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    SlyPokerDog, Aug 23, 2012
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    Whoa....

    Can they do this? The article says they can, but...wow...this seems drastic as shit...he passed a lot of tests. Yeah, he may have doped, but their is no solid evidence of it...how the fuck can they do this?
     
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    I have to say there was overwhelming circumstantial evidence plus several team riders who stated he did. But then again, he did pass a tremendous amount of tests...
     
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    Who cares! Going after him years later is bullshit. They had 7 years in a row to catch him cheating when he was winning 7 titles in a row.
     
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    Who cares.... he won, he knows he won, most of the world knows he won.... fuck France.
     
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    Cycling, a sport where virtually all serious competitors and champions EXCEPT ARMSTRONG have been caught doping at one time or another, was nothing before him, and has faded back into obscurity without him. Lesser men with vacuous hearts seethe in their hateful envy that he achieved ultimate greatness while they accomplished nothing of consequence in their small lives.

    Like Roger Maris and Roger Clemens, he's been "Fricked".
     
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    Who gives a shit about Lance Armstrong?
     
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    The cancer patients who have seen literally hundreds of millions of dollars raised for cancer research via the LiveStrong Foundation?

    The USADA is a bunch of goat fuckers, IMO. Lance Armstrong has done more in one day of his life than the clowns chasing him for over a decade have done for humanity in their entire lives. How much taxpayer money was spent, and how many "immunities" were given, to find a few people who were going to offer circumstantial evidence against a guy who's jock they could not hope to carry.
     
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    i guess i dont get it, why are the taking his titles?
     
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    Who knows? He tested clean in all of those races, yet some US anti-doping clowns apparently can now strip him of his titles years later based on a few people's testimony (for immunity, of course).

    Way to kill your own sport, cycling!
     
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    weird...i mean, if there is no proof...wait what?
     
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    In that anti-doping world, you're proven guilty and have to fight for your innocence.

    Whatever. I watched Armstrong win those titles, and I watched him bonk on some climbs, while rally on others. He NEVER had a day like Floyd Landis had when he actually got caught doping during the race, where he blew away the field by 10 minutes on a huge climb.
     
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    All I can think of during all this was, "good for you cycling, now go back to being insignificant."
     
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    Good. Fuck all the doping cheaters.
     
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    Greg LeMond...now THAT dude was a stud and I'd bet good money he didn't dope or cheat.
     
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    I am confused by this.

    I know that the head of USADA (the constantly grandstanding Tygart) said that he stripped Armstrong of French titles. I know that most of the headlines scream "Lance stripped of Tour Titles",

    yet, I can't find any confirmation that this has (yet) happened. In fact, I am pretty sure it hasn't happened.

    Why reporters listen to guys like Tygart without confirmation I will never understand. How about asking for, you know, proof next time?

    Oh, I know why, Tygart is all about circumstantial accusations. Might as well claim the he is the one in charge of stripping someone of titles from a completely different country.
     
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    Who's in line to inherit Lance Armstrong's Tour de France titles from 1999-2005?

    PARIS -- The cyclists Lance Armstrong beat to win his seven Tour de France victories may soon get a chance at his titles. But their ranks include men who have faced a tangle of doping bans and accusations, possibly presenting a headache for Tour leadership.

    Here's a look at who else was on the podium in the seven Tours that Armstrong won from 1999-2005:

    1999
    No. 2 : Alex Zulle, Switzerland. His 1998 team, Festina, was ousted from the Tour that year in connection with the widespread use of the performance-enhancing drug EPO. Zulle later admitted to using the blood-booster over the four previous years. The Festina affair nearly derailed the 1998 Tour, and is widely seen as the first big doping scandal to jolt cycling.
    No. 3: Fernando Escartin, Spain.

    2000
    No 2: Jan Ullrich, Germany. The 1997 Tour winner, a five-time Tour runner-up and longtime Armstrong rival. He was the top-name cyclist among at least 50 implicated in the "Operation Puerto" police investigation in Spain in May 2006. Ullrich was stripped of his third-place finish from the 2005 Tour and retired from racing two years later. Earlier this year, he confirmed that he had had contact with Eufemiano Fuentes, a Spanish doctor at the center of that scandal, calling it a "big mistake" -- but did not admit to doping.
    No. 3: Joseba Beloki, Spain. Implicated in Operation Puerto, he retired in 2007. He was reportedly was cleared by a Spanish court of any involvement in the case.

    2001
    No 2: Ullrich.
    No. 3: Beloki.

    2002
    No. 2: Beloki.
    No. 3: Raimondas Rumsas, Lithuania. On the last day of the 2002 Tour, police stopped his wife, Edita, at the Italian border and searched her car, turning up suspected doping products. A French court later handed them four-month prison sentences on doping-related charges. The cyclist denied taking banned substances at that event, and all his tests came back negative. He said the products in his wife's car were for his mother-in-law. The next year, he was given a one-year ban after testing positive for EPO in the 2003 Giro d'Italia.

    2003
    No. 2: Ullrich.
    No. 3: Alexandre Vinokourov, Kazakhstan. He later served a two-year doping suspension after twice testing positive for banned blood transfusions during the 2007 race. He won the Olympic road race in London last month and has announced plans to retire.

    2004
    No. 2: Andreas Kloeden, Germany.
    No. 3: Ivan Basso, Italy. Excluded from the 2006 Tour because of his involvement in Operation Puerto. He claimed that he gave his blood to Fuentes -- the Spanish doctor at the center of that scandal -- but never used it. Later that year, Basso received a two-year doping ban; he later returned, and won his second Giro d'Italia in 2010.

    2005
    No. 2: Basso.
    No. 3: Ullrich.

    -- The Associated Press


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    Since nearly every rider dopes up, maybe this isn't a big deal.
     
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