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  1. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Flipped to the RNC coverage. Saw Clint and a bunch of other old white people. Promptly turned it back to football.
     
  2. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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  3. jessemarioneaux

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    I want Ron Paul not Mitt Romney he can go to hell.
     
  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I think the list is missing quite a few republican latinos.

    From WikiPedia (another wiki):

    Ted Cruz is running for senate.
    The governor of Puerto Rico is a republican.
    Some number of state senators and representatives (if chairman of the LA bus system counts...)

    And if you do look just a little back in time (hello, Bill Richardson?):
    Bush Secy. of Labor Linda Chavez
    Bush Atty. General Alberto Gonzalez
    GHW Bush Surgeon General Antonia Novello

    Don't get me wrong, though. I think that strategically, that Latinos are and were a natural voting bloc for Republicans, but Republicans have effectively chased far too many (main street) Latinos from the party.
     
  5. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Agreed. I tried to find a decent list (granted, I didn't exhaust my search) and didn't find much out there. I KNOW there are plenty of minorities in both parties.
     
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  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Wow, that link is full of its own lies.

    #1 - Obama took office with Bush's final budget at $3T. It's now $3.7T and he increased it to $3.6T immediately. Regardless of how fast govt. has grown from $3.6T going forward, it has still spent $600B + $600B + $600B + $600B more than the levels it was spending when Bush left office. That's $2.4T in increased spending on his watch, not to mention another $2.5T in spending by the fed via QE1 and QE3 (they printed money and spent it). To boot, congress unanimously rejected his budget proposals, or the increases year over year would have been higher.

    #3 - The Detroit newspaper wrote this, just this morning:
    http://www.freep.com/article/201208...The-facts-about-Janesville-GM-plant-s-closure

    And even though he wasn't president, General Motors and Chrysler did get word that they would be receiving a bridge loan from the U.S. Treasury in mid-December, 2008, before the plant stopped producing GM vehicles. It continued to produce some cars for Isuzu and completely shut down mid-2009.

    (So the plant WAS open well into Obama's first year in office, just not producing GM vehicles).

    I didn't waste my time looking at the rest of your link.
     
  8. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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  10. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    I learned a fun fact coming home yesterday. The plant was scheduled to shut down production before obama went into office, but a crew stayed on as you mentioned and then they locked their doors, as Paul Ryan said. Because the plant is not producing, but it is not shut down permanently. It is on stand-by if GM gets enough orders, and will start producing again. A semantic, Paul Ryan did not want to be caught lying about.

    PS You aren't skipping the other "lies" because you don't have stuff to counter, right? ;]
     
  11. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't see the point in debunking the bad logic all the way through the article, as it's already demonstrated the logic is bad in the first place :)

    However, I'd be willing to bet we won't see any kind of fact checking from these sources on DNC speeches, eh?
     
  12. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    does this apply? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent
     
  13. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    wow!

    This is like a funny version of my grandpa.
     
  14. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    Anyone listen to Clint's "speech" . . . I have no idea what he said, but I love the guy.
     
  15. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Are you commenting on trying to hear/understand him, or didn't click my link?
     
  16. Denny Crane

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    Imagine the republicans parading women and latinos on stage during their convention, then in the heart of Florida and its retirement community they gave 82 year old Clint Eastwood a short speech during a key moment.

    While I think he underperformed expectations, he is roughly of the greatest generation and spoke to them. He spoke to an empty chair, symbolic of the fact that Obama doesn't listen. He hit the nail on the head with several of his points:

    1) Escalated the war in Afghanistan, how did the Russians fare? And why give a pull-out date instead of bringing the troops home now?
    2) How fucked up is this country because it's run by lawyers?
    3) There are 23 million unemployed, it is a disgrace.
    4) Obama hasn't lived up to the hype.
    5) Obama promised to close gitmo, then went down the path of putting terrorists on trial in NYC.
    6) Biden is the intellect of the Democrat party (LOL)
    7) Time to step aside and let a stellar businessman take over.
    8) You're a hypocrite, since you talk about ecology buy fly around in a big plane and are driven around in SUVs.
    9) Elected officials are our employees, WE own this country.
    10) Obama has failed at the job, we should fire people who fail at the job.
    11) Obama may be a nice guy, but that's no reason to reelect him.
    12) Obama may not be such a nice guy - look at the ads he runs.

    There may be real danger of a backlash against those who make fun of the guy. We will see.
     
  17. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Except that that contradicts Romney's stance, which is that Obama is pulling out too soon.

    Pretty sure Romney has a law degree from Harvard, just like Obama.

    Yes, other Alzheimer's patients may well take offense. But then they'll probably forget to vote, so it doesn't matter.

    barfo
     
  18. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    I could hear him, I just didn't understand what he was trying to say . . . or maybe I somewhat understood it, it was just wierd to me.
     
  19. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    ah okay. Yeah, his speech seemed par for the course of an octogenarian.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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