For those in favor of government having a greater role in our lives...

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  1. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Would you prefer that power eminates from Washington or from our state capitols? I ask because I wonder how many people on the left are also Federalists.
     
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    I'm not sure I'm in favor of government having a greater role in our lives. Since I'm one of the few Obama supporters that pays income taxes, I don't feel the heavy hand of government oppressing me with food stamps or other soul-destroying handouts. I might drive a bit more carefully when I see a cop car, but otherwise the government has very little role in my day-to-day life.

    As for whence power emanates, I guess it depends on the service being provided. Some things make sense to do federally, some things make sense to do more locally. I do think we could get rid of county governments altogether and simply provide those services at the state level.

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    I would opt for states rights.
     
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    i would never vote for chris christie, talk about big government
     
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    HAHAHAHA!!

    Talk about pork belly spending...
     
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    As I said before, I don't think government should have "power in our lives". I've never seen a married country or a pregnant state.

    I do think that, as the Constitutions says, one function of government is "to provide for the common good".
     
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    It's "...provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity..." Didn't you ever watch Schoolhouse Rock? ;)
     
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    I think the Government having a say in my health care decisions is having power over my life...literally.

    As for abortion or gay marriage (any kind of marriage at all for consenting adults for that matter), I'm 100% with you.
     
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    why is polygamy illegal? sounds pretty ballin'
     
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    I don't know. My position is that the government should have to allow civil unions for all, but can't marry. If people wish to marry, that's up to their church.

    As for abortion, I think the woman should have the right to terminate the pregnancy, until the point where the baby can be supported outside the womb.
     
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    I'm all for whatever allows people to actually be free, gays to marry, and people to smoke pot without being arrested.

    Or at least allows us to continue to working toward such things.
     
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    If power decreases in one sphere (government, business, media, religion) it increases in another. One sphere will catch the escaping fluid power before it seeps into the individual.

    This is the Law of Conservation of Power.

    Only one of those columns of power is elected.
     
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    The US should be dissolved.
     
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    You may not put gas in the car every day, but every time you do the govt. is there with it's hand out.

    Take any medication? If so, it's only because the govt. allows it.

    You really need a longer list?
     
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    Gas taxes don't bother me. They should be higher, in fact.

    I don't take any medication, but I'm certainly happy to have the government protect me from quackery should I ever need to.

    I don't see those as oppressive.

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    You said govt. has very little role in your life. I suggest it has a big role in a huge amount of what goes on in your (and everyone else's) life.
     
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    It's in the background, in the examples you mentioned. I don't feel constrained, except in good ways, by gas taxes or drug approval by the fda.
    Of course government has a role.

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    Not surprised you said that.
     
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    Being constrained as long as it doesn't feel like you're constrained makes it OK?

    All you have to do is look around and see that the more constraints there have been, the steeper the decline in whatever good or service that the govt. is . Be it public education, health care (in terms of life expectancy), and the middle class in general (constraining the economy).
     
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