Millionaires On Unemployment

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    so, just eat into your savings. penalized for financial wisdom and frugality! :MARIS61:

    great. meanwhile, the guy who made $50k a year, lives with his parents (with a faded Obama poster in his childhood bedroom), no expenses at all...should get funemployment for 99 weeks!

    'murrica!
     
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  2. MickZagger

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  3. BLAZER PROPHET

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    HAHAHAHA!!!

    I'm going to think that post is a joke.

    But if not, how in the world do you assume I'm making some sort of statement that the government is supposed to tell us how to budget? All I'm saying is that certain public assistance should be based on true need and that there needs to be a method to determine that. I mean, if you think millionaires should get food stamps, unemployment, social security... then how are such programs expected to work when everyone gets more from them than they put in?
     
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    Its easy BP, we pay for all the social programs by barrowing a few trillion more from China..
     
  5. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Because you assume that those who make $150k+ plus don't need it because they should have saved their money, which may or may not be true. You have to identify "true need" and that really can't be done across the board. Someone with zero income can't live other than to eat up their savings and sell their possessions. If they are paying into the unemployment system, why shouldn't they have these protections.

    Unemployment is for people who are already working and if they suddenly get cut off provides temporary assistance to help pay bills. If you don't think there are people making $150k a year+ living paycheck to paycheck, you'd be wrong. Should we have qualifiers then? I mean it costs more to live in LA than in Oregon. Why not calculate a cost of living adjustment for each zip code then.

    You're treating unemployment as a handout when it really isn't one.
     
  6. MickZagger

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    Is living within your means so unreasonable? If you're working seasonally, you should understand how to spread it out, if not, get another job while idle. Getting government assistance when your making over $100k is a joke.
     
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    When you make more, you spend more (mortgage, etc) and need that extra money to help out. Your car payment is higher for example as is your insurance and your taxes are higher as well. Should those that make more money that likely have six figures in student loan debt be forced to eat into their savings just because they make more money? I don't think so.

    Unemployment is not government assistance in as so much as being insurance that you are paying into. Its a temporary benefit that does get abused along the entire spectrum.
     
  8. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    "yeah, you have too much money, you don't need the unemployment benefits because you should live like paupers and live as if you were making $25k a year".
     
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    If you knowingly take a seasonal job where you're going to have no income for a good portion of time than you adjust, or find other ways to supplement your income. Its making a mockery of the system when you got people living off government assistance just to fund their lavish lifestyle. Sure, a week here and there, of unemployment? No biggie. My dad has done that, I've got friends that do that. A couple months to half a year? Thats bullshit.
     
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    Well you are only working half the year. I don't see how they can really do this though, they would have to lay him off every year then he would have to be a new hire. He likely lied on his unemployment application.

    Its really not that different than people who take the unemployment for 98 weeks and then start really looking for a job right before it runs out though. that happens more than you would think aka "Funemployment".
     
  11. Denny Crane

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    Unemployment is private insurance. It is to insure the case when a person becomes unemployed.

    You pay in, you should be able to get your claim paid.
     
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    Or simply printing money we can't back.
     
  13. EL PRESIDENTE

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    yeah. 1099'ers don't get unemployment. if he's seasonal he should be a 1099er.
     
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    This thread is just more of the same from the lefties:

    The lefties should get to decide how much money is enough for everybody else. Everybody should be treated as equal... except if you make more money than the lefties.
     
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    Agreed, the same with social security.
     
  16. MickZagger

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    Socialism is sweet. I wouldn't mind socialism. Everybody gets a fair shake. However, as much as the Neo-Con's on the board want you to believe, Obama isn't nowhere near a Socialist.
     
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    If we get socialism here, I'll work as little as I have to and soak off someone else's hard work. Eventually there will be no hard work done.

    Awesome.
     
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    yeah, and started by that leftist blazerprophet!
     
  19. MickZagger

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    You missed the Republican handbook memo? We already are Socialist.
     
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    btw, your reading skills are pretty poor. 2 "lefties" commented on this thread with a comment regarding the issue, and one of those comments was kind of vague.

    But hey, if it helps you to blame the "lefties" in this thread for stuff that they didn't really say (and in fact, were also said by some 'righties'...)
     

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