Prez Obama- Get Us The HELL Out Of Afghanistan!!

I think W said the wars would not provide a stimulus effect.

Why did the Nobel peace prize winner escalate the war in Afghanistan and initiate attacks and bombing of the neighboring country.

Change we can believe in!

 

There's no need for war since govt. is perfectly willing to give $trillions of taxpayer money and borrowed Chinese money and printed money to whoever is willing to kick back some of it.

 

Profitable for who or what?

Calling it a "fake democracy" is selling it hugely short. And whether you think it's correlation or causality, the stated goal of removing threats like 9/11 has been successful here for a decade.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...claims-mineral-wealth-is-worth-3trillion.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18342888

China and India already have set up exploitation agreements. Russia is in negotiations. AFAIK, no US entity has. And as South Asia becomes more stable, there's a whole lotta trade going to be passing through the old Silk Road countries.

 

No, we want to protect our interests and it costs a shitton of money to move a Maritime Preposition Group, 2 carrier battle groups and fly over an Army brigade every time someone gets a wild hair.

 

Pakistan's trying to prevent their own civil war right now, and keep control over their own nuclear weapons. ISI's acceptance/care and feeding of groups like Quetta Shura Taliban and Haqqani is starting to blow up in their face, or else they'd be trying to pull the "war crimes" garbage that publicity-seeking nobodies like Malaysia push out.

 

Let China and India do the nation building if they stand to profit.

Which they don't

 

Those companies would make $billions, war or not.

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=11068

It is certainly true that during a two year period Halliburton’s revenue from Defense Department contracts doubled. However, that increase in revenue occurred from 1998 to 2000 - during the Clinton administration.

In 1998, Halliburton's total revenue was $14.5 billion, which included $284 million of Pentagon contracts. Two years later, Halliburton’s DoD contracts more than doubled.

 

Not yet...on the path. I know more than the average bear about two of the companies on that list, and it's as Denny said.

And there's not a whole lot of bombing in the mountains.

I don't think the two are related. One was a relative lone wolf wacko who wanted revenge against the US government for Waco and David Koresh. One was a systemic attack among many attacks planned and coordinated by a worldwide group using failed countries with no rule of law as a base for training and carrying out attacks. Heard of many terrorists coming out of Yemen, Somalia, Sudan or Afghanistan recently?

 

So when there's not boots on the ground in some other nation, you think Lockheed Martin closes up shop and makes no money?

 

To be fair, your quote was "We will stay there as long as it is profitable"--suggesting that the government is profiting, not private enterprises.

 

The US should only invade countries that the average citizen would want to visit. Canada, Bermuda, the Bahamas, and maybe a few small areas of Mexico.

 

I said the defense contractors you listed would make $billions, war or not. They did before the wars, as I pointed out. To add to that...

I don't see any profit to be had in Afghanistan. Never did. It was a war of REVENGE, and I'm not sure that revenge is ultimately a good cause.

If it was about throwing the taliban out of power, that was achieved quite early on. I have no idea why we stayed beyond that point.

Since 9/11/2001, the yearly defense budget has more than doubled. That's not including the supplemental spending bills to cover the wars. The military contractors were making 50% of the defense budget in sales in 2001, and less than 50% in 2010. They would have done so without the wars.

On the other hand, someone had to develop, test, iron out the bugs, and get Obama's drones ready to deploy.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/economy/2011-08-20-defense-stocks_n.htm

In 2001, revenue for U.S.-based defense contractors totaled $217 billion, according to analytics firm Capital IQ. By 2010 revenue had grown to $386 billion.

(See, they were making $billions before the wars, when Clinton was president, etc.)