SI Roundtable: Assessing the Rookies

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  1. Haakzilla

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    ...more press for the Blazer's "PGOTF" :clap:

     
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    SI has no credibility anymore because Ben Goliver works there now. At least that's what some Blazer faithful keep telling me
     
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    no blazer faithful has said that specifically to you. But you can keep fishing for it.
     
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    Well I'll say this, Paul Forrester has lost any credibility he might have had after this:

    C'mon now...

    [video=youtube;vYQaZyVVt9o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYQaZyVVt9o[/video]
     
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    Waiter was the one guy I DIDN'T want.
     
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    Me either!
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    ^That's a carrying the ball violation!
     
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    No it's not. His hand is on top of the ball
     
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    Isn't that how LBJ starts his "crabwalk" travel?
     
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    That is absolutely NOT a carry. To carry a ball (speaking from a ref's point of view) the Ballhandler MUST have his hand MORE
    open than a handshake. Even if it is at handshake level (straight up and down) it is NOT a carry.

    Most fans do not know this.

    Section II—Dribble
    d. A player who is dribbling may not put any part of his hand under the ball and

    This means your hand can be on the side of the ball. Anything more open than a handshake IS under the ball.
     
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    Exactly what is the problem with what he said? He never said that Waiters would be ROY, would be any good, would score 20 ppg, or anything else like that. All he said was that Waiters will have more scoring opportunities than Davis will. And he will.
     
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    The whole context was in the rookie of the year conversation. Waiters should not and will not be in this discussion. This is my point.
     
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    I disagree that 20ppg is 'sexier' than 12/10/3. Three people in history have accomplished the latter as a rookie. You may have heard of the Admiral, Shaq and Alonzo Mourning. In just the last 10 years there's been LeBron, Melo, Durant, Tyreke, and Blake Griffin. Not to say that 20ppg doesn't put you in some sort of rarified air, but if these two were pulling this off you'd get an article a day from Hollinger and the like talking about PER and win shares and how volume scorers aren't as valuable as athletic big men who put up double doubles and play hellacious D.
     
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  15. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    That all may very well be true, but when it comes to ROY voting, it doesn't matter. A sexy scoring average will sway more voters. Adam Morrison with a PER = 7.9 and a -1.5 WS came in 4th in ROY voting because he averaged 11.8ppg (second among rookies that year). He wasn't even in the top 15 rookies in PER, but most ROY voters don't even know what PER means.

    BNM
     
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    I'll take 16/6/3 and R.O.Y.

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