If not us, who?

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  1. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    A Pakistani Pashtun 14 y/o girl has been standing up to the Taliban for years, winning her country's peace prize and worldwide notoriety based on her work with BBC. Yesterday, they caught up with her.
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    How can someone put a hit on a girl in the name of Islam?
    Meanwhile, Americans are marching across the "safe" areas of Pakistan to protest our use of drones in killing people like Mr. Ishan.

    :smh:
     
  2. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    It is a sad thing. Any murder in the name of a god is horrible thing.
     
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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  4. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    The title of your thread is could have been for one when Sadam Husein was murdering 300,000 citizens in Iraq. We invaded. But the Taliban are a fanatical group spread across more than half the earth.
     
  5. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

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    all of the people over there who are sick of the taliban doing things like this should rise up and destroy them, pretty simple really
     
  6. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    if it were only that simple.

    you would have to rise up and destroy an amalgamation of religion and thousands of years of war. very hard to defeat an idea.

    also, in the past twelve years that we have been in that area (mid east) at war, they have raised another generation of fighters, 10 and 12 year olds that have been and will die for their religious beliefs.
     
  7. 3RA1N1AC

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    it is that simple

    if the people there are fine with this kind of thing, thats on them
     
  8. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    so do what?

    dunno if you heard, but we are at war with the taliban, and when you or barry deny that fact, they still believe that they are at war with us to the death...
     
  9. 3RA1N1AC

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    rise up and destroy the taliban
     
  10. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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  11. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Simply put, as a taxpayer I am fine with paying BrianFromWA to defend AMERICA from attacks, invasions (including non-violent ones) and embargos meant to harm AMERICA.

    Other countries pay their military to do the same.

    It's not, or shouldn't be, in BrianFromWA's job description to do the job assigned to other countries' military.
     
  12. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    We wouldn't have to if Reagan didn't arm them...

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/general-article/reagan-iran/

    "In 1985, while Iran and Iraq were at war, Iran made a secret request to buy weapons from the United States. McFarlane sought Reagan's approval, in spite of the embargo against selling arms to Iran. McFarlane explained that the sale of arms would not only improve U.S. relations with Iran, but might in turn lead to improved relations with Lebanon, increasing U.S. influence in the troubled Middle East. Reagan was driven by a different obsession. He had become frustrated at his inability to secure the release of the seven American hostages being held by Iranian terrorists in Lebanon. As president, Reagan felt that "he had the duty to bring those Americans home," and he convinced himself that he was not negotiating with terrorists. While shipping arms to Iran violated the embargo, dealing with terrorists violated Reagan's campaign promise never to do so."
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Maybe stories like this one ^^^ is the reason why Republicans have a hard on to cut that PBS funding...
     
  14. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Arming and funding Islamic radicals to fight the Russians in Afghanistan was the right thing to do.
     
  15. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Yeah, what he said...
     
  16. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but What Reagan did was Treason IMO.
     
  17. 3RA1N1AC

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    taliban wasnt around in 85

    and as far as nefarious secret dealings in the middle east, you really dont need to go back 30 years to find juicy tidbits
     
  18. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    No, it wasn't right. Nor was it legal.
     
  19. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    This.

    As was his aiding and abetting the hostage-takers in Tehran during his election campaign in order to sabotage Carter's re-election.

    As was his flooding American streets with crack cocaine to support terrorists via the Iran-Contra "affair".
     
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  20. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    It directly led to the fall of the Iron Curtain. It may not have been legal but it led to the end of the cold war.

    USA! USA! USA!
     

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