http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/dont-cut-taxes-for-billio_b_1953270.html Forget the "Buffett rule." It's not enough. What's more, "letting the Bush tax cuts expire for the rich" isn't enough either -- although it might get us halfway there. As for that "Simpson Bowles" so-called "deficit reduction" plan: It's a hoax, another ploy to give the ultra-rich yet another huge tax cut -- unless you believe that the lobbying fairy will magically grant a wish that's never been granted before: an end to billionaires' loopholes. The real moment of truth Washington won't face is this one: It's time to admit that we can't rebuild our economy -- or balance the Federal budget -- without raising taxes on the very wealthy. That's what Simpson, Bowles, and all their highly-funded friends won't tell you: We need to raise their taxes a lot. And by "a lot," I mean doubling them. Let's be clear: I'm not talking about imposing sharp increases on incomes over $250,000 or even $500,000, at least not until the economy's healthier. At those levels an expiration of the Bush tax cuts would probably be enough. But once you hit income of a million dollars a year and over, we should go back to the higher tax rates that were in place for millionaires during the Nixon years. That's right: When it comes to taxes, Nixon's the One. And Eisenhower was much stronger on these issues than Nixon. The public's being bludgeoned by deficit reduction rhetoric from people who clearly couldn't care less about deficits. They certainly don't intend to do anything about them. Ike and Nixon would throw them out of the cabinet room if they walked in with proposals like these. Once we get back to their brand of Republicanism, we can revitalize the genuine left and start having a real economic debate in this country. Here's what we should be saying to our lawmakers -- and to the billionaires who finance them -- next time they want to cut vital programs in the name of "deficit reduction": Show us you're serious, by giving us a serious set of tax rates.And by "serious," we mean Dwight D. Eisenhower "serious." Then you can talk to us about "shared sacrifice." We've reached such a low point in our political process that Warren Buffett represents the left flank of acceptable discourse. The "Buffett rule" says that billionaires shouldn't pay a lower tax rate than his secretary. Thanks for that, Mr. Buffett, since it more than many of your peers have been willing to concede. But you shouldn't pay the same rate than your secretary? You should pay a much higher rate. Only one household in 364 collected more than one million dollars per year, according to the most reliable study, and yet those households collected more than a third (36.1 percent) of the total national income. Just 25 hedge fund managers earned a total of $22 billion dollars in 2010. Over the next ten years we could add to much-needed government spending -- or cut the deficit -- by $110 billion to $150 billion. How? By returning to Eisenhower-era tax rates for these 25 people alone. That's how skewed our national debate has become. In the 25 year period leading up to the banker-caused crisis of 2008, the percentage of national income going to the top 1 percent soared to levels not seen since the runup to the Great Depression. And in the first year of recovery from that crisis, most of the nation's economic gains went to the top 1 percent, while 90 percent of the population saw their more modest 25-year gains wiped out altogether. Let's put that another way: Over 25 years, the wealthiest among us jury-rigged the system to take more of our income. The 99 percent bailed them out -- and then the wealthiest among us took all the gains while ninety percent of us lost what little progress we'd made. Free Ride And yet millionaire households, as members of the top 1 percent, pay less as a percentage of their income than than those in the 90-99 percent bracket, and not much more than middle-class families do. What's more, the highest earners among the 1 percent -- the richest of the rich -- are often those who pay the least. Hedge fund operators' management fees are taxed as capital gains, for example -- for money they're earning, not investing -- which allows them to pay just 15 percent on their income. Million-dollar households make 42 percent of their income, on average, from capital gains at these ultra-low rates today. The portion of their' ncome that isn't being taxed at the 15 percent rate is subject to the official top marginal tax rate of 35 percent under the Bush tax cuts -- and that's before the loopholes kick in. And man, do they kick in. Even the figures quoted above should be taken with a grain of salt, given high-earning households' ability to lower their "taxable income." That makes even these generous percentages appear higher than they actually are. The President's proposal to let those cuts expire is a good start. High-earning households would see their capital gains rate rise to 23.8 percent and their top marginal tax rate to 39.5 percent. That's a start -- but only a start. If lawmakers double those rates for millionaires, we'll be able to take their deficit rhetoric seriously. Does that sound radical? It wasn't too radical for Dick Nixon. During Nixon's Presidency the capital gains tax increased every year, rising from 27.5 percent to 36.5 percent. The highest tax rate for other forms of "unearned income" under Nixon was 70 percent, while the top marginal tax wage was 50 percent. And We Like Ike: The top tax rate for everything but capital gains was 91 percent under Dwight D. Eisenhower. (The capital gains tax was a relatively modest 25 percent.) Tax-cut advocates say we can't raise taxes on billionaires because they'll stop investing or hiring. Wait, let me get this straight: If an investor writes a check today and makes a billion dollars, he or she keepa 850 million dollars after taxes. But by this wacky Randian logic, that investor won't think it's worth it to write the same check next year. They'll be too demoralized and discouraged. Only $700 million in return for my signature? Ohh, no. I've lost my motivation. I'm collapsing into a black hole of despair and ennui. I surrender! I refuse! I don't think so. The extremist of the right and the angry billionaires tell us that they'll emulate an Ayn Rand fictional character by "going Galt," refusing to make money the way they increasingly do -- by not working for it. (Will rich kids refuse to collect their inheritances, too?) Nobody "went Galt" in Ike's day. Maybe we just had a better breed of millionaire back then: Tougher. More patriotic. Made of sterner stuff. Colonel Tom Parker, Elvis Presley's manager, said he considered it "his patriotic duty to get Elvis up into the 90 percent tax bracket." Higher billionaire tax rates built America. They worked for FDR. They worked for Truman. They worked for Eisenhower. They worked for Nixon. But somehow they're not going to work now, because billionaire investors won't "work" at watching their money grow? I don't think so. Romney would cut the millionaires' and billionaires' historically low tax rates even more, from 35 percent to 28 percent, would eliminate estate taxes (because nothing says 'fairness' and 'opportunity' like billionaire kids who don't pay taxes) and keep the capital gains rate at its current low rate. Romney's tax plans aren't just fun and games, though: He'll really bring the hammer down on charities. While certain forms of charitable deduction need reforming, Romney's approach is a strange way to go at it -- unless you think our economic problems were caused by food banks, not Wall Street banks. Romney's proposals would slash revenue overall, but he says he'll make up the difference by closing loopholes. That's not a gag line; it's his stated policy. No wonder Bill Clinton made so much fun of it in his speech at the Democratic Convention. He got big laughs, too. Good one, Bill! Who in their right mind believes that you can give away more billions in breaks to billionaires, and that lawmakers will more than make up the difference by suddently getting tough on loopholes -- the ones they created themselves? Bargain Basement Deal A lot of Democrats and so-called 'centrists,' that's who, and thir most prominent spokesman is one Bill Clinton. Clinton's been talking up the "Simpson Bowles" proposal that would do exactly that: cut the top tax rates for millionaires, billionaires, hedge funds, and corporations -- then, supposedly, overcome the shortfall (and more!) by closing those same loopholes. But seriously, folks ... Actually it is serious. The President is praising the fallacious Simpson Bowles deal. Senators in both parties are meeting to craft a bill along its lines. Suddenly Chuck Schumer, the Wall Street-friendly New York Democrat, is now thought by some to represent the left flank of the tax argument. Schumer, who's presumably manning the barricades with his fellow radical Warren Buffett, would use any additional revenue to cut deficits and not to provide needed services. What makes them think of Sen. Schumer as an obstructionist lefty? He wants to keep millionaire and billionaire tax rates at their pre-Bush-tax-cut, already insufficient level. Schumer's proposal, like Buffett's, is a cool solution to a hot problem. But at least neither one of them has drunk the Kool-Aid. Many of his Senate colleagues, on the other hand, have gotten intoxicated on the stuff. They want to cut billionaires' taxes even more. And they claim they're acting in the name of deficit reduction! That's how surrealistic this debate has become. We can do this. We've built a thriving, growing economy before and we can do it again. All it takes is hard work, old-fashioned American optimism -- and a fair tax code. These tax rates helped make America great. The America that Rick Perry and other conservatives wax nostalgic about was built by rich people paying their fair share. The money was used to build our schools, bridges, and highways, to educate our young people, to make us the world's leader in the sciences, and to reach the moon. Fair taxation works. It worked in the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, and for most of the 1980s. It will work again, and we should demand no less from our leaders.
That's not even in the realm of truth, so no reply is needed. Do you even understand the basics of how taxes and credits and deductions and depreciation are applied? Do you know what a tax bracket is and how the rate for each bracket is applied? If not, it's perfectly reasonable as many don't. But if you do understand our tax system then you're just posting BS to be obnoxious.
For every $100K in income, write off $100K in depreciation. You have Adjusted Gross Income of $0 so you own $0 in taxes. And you only have to put 10% down on a property, borrow the rest, and have a tenant/renter pay the mortgage payment for you. Good for realtors. Good for the rich, since they pay $0 in tax and get to own lots of real estate. Are you sure you want to go back to taxation the way it was done during Nixon's and Ike's (and JFK's and LBJ's) terms?
I fail to see how it has anything to do with Realtors in particular. Absolutely certain I want a return to fair taxation, all the way back to Ike's day, when America was #1. America's recent fall to bankruptcy is 100% due to the redistribution of wealth over the last 50 years from all Americans to the 1%, just as it caused the Great Depression 80 years ago.
Back then, the rich would buy real estate so they could write off the depreciation. If you have enough real estate, you write off your entire income and pay no tax. The tax rate could be 10,000,000% and nobody who should have paid that rate ever did. Gee, why is real estate the way to go for this purpose? Because you can leverage. $10K is 10% down payment on $100K worth of property. You get to depreciate the $100K amount. I fail to see how you don't see this as a good thing for realtors. Lots of real estate to sell so people can legally avoid the tax. This loophole was closed by Reagan as part of the lowering of the overall rate. The result was the rich actually paid taxes when they didn't before, and they've been assuming an ever increasing burden. America's fall to bankruptcy is due to a few factors. Inflation is the enemy of everyone except those in a position to own assets. Assets go up with inflation. The cost of buying things goes up with inflation. If 100% of everyone gets regular COLA increases to their pay to negate inflation, the middle class would be doing fine. But if it's 100% - 1, or anything less, who gets COLA increases, time and inflation will end up destroying the middle class. As with this idea of getting government to do what's good for realtors, there are many other people who want government to do what's good for them. The demands on government to provide simply exceed its ability to raise revenue. And as the rich have become increasingly the only ones paying taxes and thus funding everything, there's no incentive for anyone to ask for less handouts from the government.
This is a ridiculous and ignorant post. The average effective tax rate for the top 1% is 30%. For you, since you don't understand, the effective tax rate accounts for the deductions and brackets you're talking about. And you want to double that number. You also don't understand that bracketing system, because if you did, you would realize that if you double those top rates, there is absolutely zero incentive to earn more than $380k per year.
Sounds smart. Add tax shelters back in. Allow deductions for lots more stuff. Rich people might not pay as much in taxes, but, hey, at least their tax rate will be higher, like back in the good ol' days of Nixon and Eisenhower and James K. Polk! Ed O.
Get a friggin' clue: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/08/investigating-mitt-romney-offshore-accounts
Yes, an article from Vanity Fair talking about one person disproves the actual data from tax returns across the country. Get a friggin' clue.
Don't act like a fool. As I said, when Reagan cut the tax rates, he got rid of the real estate depreciation scheme for avoiding income tax. http://www.finweb.com/taxes/real-estate-depreciation-and-tax-sheltering.html Anyone who would take advantage of depreciation to get AGI to $0 would certainly earn more than $120K per year. And this chart shows how the EFFECTIVE tax rates have changed since 1979. The highest tax bracket when Reagan became president was 70%, yet the effective tax rate was below 30%, and has been relatively the same +/- a couple % either way since.