Hardly any trades...the only great trade was the Ford/Villanueva trade....lots of obvious longterm deals, this has been a boring offseason for the ages.
Yeah, im really wanting a trade to happen involving Houston. We need a starting PF. Anybody who's better then Juwan.
In terms of every team, I guess it has been. But for me, I've been excited about our current player movements. Waiting on our final player to be added, definately better then last year's wait and squat on Michael Finley's amnesty crap.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Aug 6 2006, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>most trades teams want to make cant take place until september..september will be a busy month</div>If you were referring to all the Telfair/Ratliff rumors, they can be traded on August 28th. But either way, I don't see Telfair going anywhere, maybe Ratliff, but I think Bassy is staying here.But yes, overall this offseason has sucked. I mean I was happy about the Celtics/Blazers trade, I like it. But other than that, there aren't even any good rumors (F the AI rumors, they will be on and off for his entire career unless he gets traded or signs an extension). And I guess Harrington, but jesus christ that is taking forever. I just want something to happen. I mean draft night was crazy in terms of trade count, but not many actual NBA veterans were traded, just Portland making a bunch of small trades (in which they didn't need to make half of them), then the Houston-Memphis deal (and as I stated, the Telfair deal). Something needs to happen, I am bored out of my mind here basically. I find myself posting more than usual in the off-topic forums, and I don't like that. I need something BASKETBALL to talk about. BBW is kind of sucking lately (not any of our faults, but just the NBA is dead lately).Let's go! Come on GM's, do some work! Work the phones.EDIT: I just sat back and read everything I said. It is such a rambling paragraph and a terrible post lol. See what this non-activity is doing to me?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Aug 6 2006, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In terms of every team, I guess it has been. But for me, I've been excited about our current player movements. Waiting on our final player to be added, definately better then last year's wait and squat on Michael Finley's amnesty crap.</div>how have they gotten any better? Mo ager won't make that big a difference, and Croshere won't make any more of an impact than Daniels. In fact, probably less. And they lost a viable bench scoring option in Van Horn. He may have been a softie, but he was good for 10 ppg when healthy.
The Cavs' offseason has sucked. With Gooden turning into another Boozer, Flip going (I expected that in a way, we only got him because Hughes was hurt for so long), Hughes maybe wanting out, and no one special being signed, I have been pissed. Sure James got resigned, but I was expecting that really.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Aug 6 2006, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>how have they gotten any better? Mo ager won't make that big a difference, and Croshere won't make any more of an impact than Daniels. In fact, probably less. And they lost a viable bench scoring option in Van Horn. He may have been a softie, but he was good for 10 ppg when healthy.</div>Powell, Marshall, DA, and Pavel are all gone. They basically did nothing. I think the players we added are far more worthwhile, but that could just be me. Sure, Croshere isn't going to score 10-20 points per game, but who cares? He's not there to score 10-20 points per game. If you want to look at this just in terms of ppg, it might not look good, but Mavs fans know better. You didn't have to watch Keith Van Suck be one of your team's most inefficient players during the playoffs. There was that one game where he had like 4 fouls in 3 minutes or something. That's ridiculous. We need more consistency and defensive prowess than what he brings.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Aug 6 2006, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>how have they gotten any better? Mo ager won't make that big a difference, and Croshere won't make any more of an impact than Daniels. In fact, probably less. And they lost a viable bench scoring option in Van Horn. He may have been a softie, but he was good for 10 ppg when healthy.</div>Croshere is better than Van Horn. Ager will get very little playing time like Daniels. Buckner is better than Griffin because he can at least shoot and is also a great defender. They traded benchwarmers for a pass-first point guard which they needed and there really isn't a difference between Powell and Pops this year. The Mavs did very well for themselves and I'm really scared of that team. If basketball was a 12 on 12 game they would destroy ever team in the NBA. And I forgot about George. There's some more depth, a back-up for Howard.I know it's been boring. The Suns got Banks at least. I just want the season to start!!!!!!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>how have they gotten any better? Mo ager won't make that big a difference, and Croshere won't make any more of an impact than Daniels. In fact, probably less. And they lost a viable bench scoring option in Van Horn. He may have been a softie, but he was good for 10 ppg when healthy.</div> Well I wouldn't be comparing Daniels to Croshere in terms of roles. Croshere wasn't brought in through that trade to take his role. If there was even a role for Daniels here last year. I don't know if you notice, but he was the odd man out in our swing rotation and only played sparingly through the year because of injuries. Not much of a impact I would say, that would easily be replaced by our new third string pg in Anthony Johnson and pickup of swing players Buckner, George and even Ager. I mean really in terms of potential, Ager is up there with Daniels, Daniels just didn't cut it here, Ager is a different player and serves a better role as a Avery guy. On Croshere, he'll replace the production Van Horn could not bring here. I'm more confident in Croshere, because it seems he's proven/consistent. And we don't need Van Horn's scoring off the bench, Stackhouse, George, Johnson, Harris, Croshere all can score points. Some other fans have broke it down this way: Bucker > Griffin, he's younger, quicker defender, can shoot from 3. Johnson > Armstrong, this is the easiest one of the bunch, Armstrong is done as a player, and Johnson has shown starter quality with the Pacers. George = Daniels, Daniels has good potential but that would be realized here with his time, with as George, will serve as a better backup sf(a hole from last year), defender, three point shot, and experience. I give Daniels a little leeway because of his potential. Ager > Marshall, another easy improvement, no words needed here. Pops = Powell, both are potential players again, Pops has better upside and 2 years of NBDL development as opposed to 1(Powell). Croshere > Van Horn, if you saw what Van Horn was bringing us towards the end of the season and playoffs, you would realize anybody replacing him would be better.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Aug 7 2006, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>George = Daniels, Daniels has good potential but that would be realized here with his time, with as George, will serve as a better backup sf(a hole from last year), defender, three point shot, and experience. I give Daniels a little leeway because of his potential.</div>The only thing they will be equal in is that they won't get playing time or very much with Avery Johnson as the coach. Daniels is clearly better but he is redundent to Stackhouse so I guess the team didn't lose much. Daniels and Stackhouse didn't seem to work well together but who does play well with Stackhouse.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing they will be equal in is that they won't get playing time or very much with Avery Johnson as the coach.</div> I bet George gets more minutes then Daniels. And just because of that, he's going to be a better player for us. He has better size, can play pf when we go small, defends better, rebounds better, the only thing Daniels does more is probably drive/post up but George has the better range. Both had their share of injuries that's going to relegate them to smaller playing time but I bet Avery goes to him. As for Stackhouse, his minutes should go down quite a bit this year. He ain't going to average 30+ like he did in the playoffs or the 25+ in regular season. So you don't have to worry about him like you always do.
It's probably been one of the most exciting off-seasons for the Raptors in a long time. We have like 7 or 8 new players on the roster. So i've been happy with it all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Aug 7 2006, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I bet George gets more minutes then Daniels. And just because of that, he's going to be a better player for us. He has better size, can play pf when we go small, defends better, rebounds better, the only thing Daniels does more is probably drive/post up but George has the better range. Both had their share of injuries that's going to relegate them to smaller playing time but I bet Avery goes to him. As for Stackhouse, his minutes should go down quite a bit this year. He ain't going to average 30+ like he did in the playoffs or the 25+ in regular season. So you don't have to worry about him like you always do.</div>Unfortunately Devean George is one of the few players that has a worst field goal percentage than Stackhouse. He shoots 39%. At least he gets rebounds but you get low percentage shooting from them so hopefully George doesn't shoot a lot.
Hopefully George's touches only come from open shots and no forces, upping his percentages like Jason Terry did.
Man Mavsfan, we all know Daniels just wouldn't work out here, not with Avery, and not with the type of player he is. Josh, Harris, and Stack can all slash and play some defense...but at least Josh, Stack, Buckner, George, and the like, can at least hit an open shot.I like Daniels, and think he'll have a decent career...but just not as a Dallas Mavs.The Mavs have had a great offseason, and it has been exciting for Bulls, Mavs, and probably Raptors fans, everyone else is just a little bored.
