Have we seen the best out of....?

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  1. TheAnalyst

    TheAnalyst BBW Elite Member

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    The good young players. Like LeBron, Wade, and Carmelo. At their young ages they are 3 of the best players in the league. Will they get better than they now? Or have we seen the best. Most likley the will get better. But I guess it would be as a player not statistically. But either way it would seem hard to be better when your nearly the best.
     
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    Boy I sure hope not. I'm glad most fans have realistic expectations of them. They are really good but they will probably level off at around what they are doing now, like many people thought LeBron had the talent to average a triple double a season but now most people have come to their senses and realized it will likely be 35/8/7 or something close. Who knows, out of the pack LeBron is the wildcard that could just blow everyones mind as he matures...I think Wade/Carmelo are doing what they will do for the rest of their careers right now.
     
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    The stats won't change much..But they are will learn how to win, and take over ball games even more.
     
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    LeBron's stats could change. I mean he's only 21 and there is definetly more that he can learn. On defense he has plenty of room to improve so I think you'll see an even better player in the future. Carmelo hasn't been as great as I think he can be, he should improve a bit. Same with Wade but I think those other two have more things that they can get better in so you'll see a little more of a change with them.
     
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    All can and will improve. Wade I think has the least chance of improving just because he is older, but I have little doubt that he will still improve.All three will improve their outside shot.'Melo will improve in rebounding.All three can and again will improve their defense (though Wade is already pretty good).Those are just statisically categories, but like someone said they'll improve in other ways. All will become better leaders.
     
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    Where is Chris Bosh? Bosh>Melo.Anyway, I would say that all 3 of these guys will improve. Of course. I think that Lebron will become a better defender after a while, and a better outside shooter. That is pretty much inevitable. I dont think Melo has as high a ceiling as Wade or Lebron, but he will become a dynamic scorer. Wade will become a better shooter, and a bit better of a defender.I could say Lebron averaging close to a triple double in the future, but I dont think he can get enough assists. I see him averaging 35/9/7 to be honest. He is a very talented rebounder, and he will only get better at that.
     
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    playaofthegame AYO ADRIEN!

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    doubt it...i see carmelo and lebron improving the most..i think wade is at his peak now
     
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    LeBron has a lot to of room to improve, says history.This was his third year, take a look at every player straight from high school's stats alone from their first three years. Now look farther down the road in their career. Some names to look at and the links (thanks to NBA.com):Kobe BryantKevin GarnettTracy McGradyNow I just gave three guys, and not every player from high school becomes like these guys, I know. But just about every guy out of high school has average or below average stats until later down the road. That is what history says, players out of high school aren't ready for the NBA right away, not like LeBron was. So from history's stand point, LeBron shouldn't even have hit his peak in stats yet. Sure history doesn't mean it will happen every time, but it is just a little thing we can use to kind of map out how LeBron will end up.Aside from all of that, LeBron has plenty of room to grow. His jump shot can still use some work, his defense needs to be worked on as well just to name a few things. James, I think will improve the most down the road.
     
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    All I want to know is how LeBron has a NBA ready body coming into the league?When Kobe, Mac and KG were all toothpicks...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Lefty @ Aug 7 2006, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>All I want to know is how LeBron has a NBA ready body coming into the league?When Kobe, Mac and KG were all toothpicks...</div>That is what suprises me too. Looking at LeBron's Senior year body, and now... WOW.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drake24 @ Aug 7 2006, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LeBron has a lot to of room to improve, says history.This was his third year, take a look at every player straight from high school's stats alone from their first three years. Now look farther down the road in their career. Some names to look at and the links (thanks to NBA.com):Kobe BryantKevin GarnettTracy McGradyNow I just gave three guys, and not every player from high school becomes like these guys, I know. But just about every guy out of high school has average or below average stats until later down the road. That is what history says, players out of high school aren't ready for the NBA right away, not like LeBron was. So from history's stand point, LeBron shouldn't even have hit his peak in stats yet. Sure history doesn't mean it will happen every time, but it is just a little thing we can use to kind of map out how LeBron will end up.Aside from all of that, LeBron has plenty of room to grow. His jump shot can still use some work, his defense needs to be worked on as well just to name a few things. James, I think will improve the most down the road.</div> How much can he realisticly improve? LeBron was more NBA ready than Kobe/McGrady/KG...those guys came in and it took them a year or two to figure it out. Just because McGrady was lost in the beginning doesn't mean LeBron has tons of room to improve. In the NBA today I think it's unrealistic for him to average over 40ppg, his assists and rebounds have already leveled off to around 6 or 7.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Aug 7 2006, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How much can he realisticly improve? LeBron was more NBA ready than Kobe/McGrady/KG...those guys came in and it took them a year or two to figure it out. Just because McGrady was lost in the beginning doesn't mean LeBron has tons of room to improve. In the NBA today I think it's unrealistic for him to average over 40ppg, his assists and rebounds have already leveled off to around 6 or 7.</div>Hold up, I never said 40 pts. Kobe averaged like 35 this year, why can't James get that high? I didn't even say it had to be points. James averaged 8 rebounds in the playoffs, why is it unrealistic for him to do that in the regular season? I tend to over exaggerate my words with like "tons", "great", and stuff like that. So tons, no, there isn't tons of room in stats to improve. But going up one or two rebounds and assists and getting near 35 PPG is realistic I think.
     
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    Like I said the stats won't rise much... but they will learn how to win. You'll see more W's from the 3 tmore than anything.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drake24 @ Aug 7 2006, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hold up, I never said 40 pts. Kobe averaged like 35 this year, why can't James get that high? I didn't even say it had to be points. James averaged 8 rebounds in the playoffs, why is it unrealistic for him to do that in the regular season? I tend to over exaggerate my words with like "tons", "great", and stuff like that. So tons, no, there isn't tons of room in stats to improve. But going up one or two rebounds and assists and getting near 35 PPG is realistic I think.</div> I never said that you said he would average 40ppg, I just threw it out there. LeBron averaged 31ppg, he can easily average 35ppg like Kobe did with an improved jumpshot but I don't see him scoring over 40ppg, not in this NBA where players whine about shots. His rebounds and assists will go up and down between 6-8 or so...depends on his teammates.
     
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    Well, one thing both Wade and James can improve on is their jump shooting. Not that they're bad, but especially Wade won't have a long career if he keeps driving and tumbling like that. Look at Iverson, in the first few first seasons he actually dunked every once and a while, but the guy is held together with duct tape. Okay, wrong example, 'cause he still scored 33 a game.Okay, Jordan then. Even in the nineties, he became more of a jumpshooter than always relying on his drives to the hoop.That's something Wade and James need to do, to keep the defense honest.Then again, looking at James, I hardly ever seen anything like this. The guy is unbelievable.
     

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