Blazers waive Karl, Ammo and Holiday.

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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  2. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    damn. stache dreams are dashed. :sigh:
     
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  3. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Karl > Nolan
     
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  4. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Stache = Petrovic II.
     
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  5. HailBlazers

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    Interesting, he lives in Idaho. Maybe just maybe he'll D league it for a while.
     
    HailBlazers, Oct 26, 2012
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yeah, that sucks about Karl, but he was a former Laker...
     
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  7. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Maybe they'll bring back Coby Karl once the league approves the Elliott Williams DSE.

    Or, maybe they'll use the DSE for someone who gets cut by another team. The most they can offer is a 1-year deal at $721,440 (half of Williams' salary). It's not like they are going to get a stud at that price.

    BNM
     
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  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Karl should have made the team.
     
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  9. HailBlazers

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    Now were talking.

    And we should have drafted Faried, but that's life.
     
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  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Karl was on the team, Faried wasn't :grin:
     
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    hmm, the smart thing ma be to wait and see who else in the league gets cut. May be a better player than Karl available..
     
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  12. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yep, they have to wait for the league to approve the DSE anyway. Might as well use the wait to see what else is out there.

    BNM
     
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    Karl is better than Price.

    Price really came in here to mentor Lil and probably wouldn't be in the league right now if not for that connection. But with Nolan's progression, or lack of, all of a sudden Price is the back up PG.

    As if Lillard didn't have enough pressure, the Blazers don't really have another viable PG.
     
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  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    That might be a good thing. Young guys are always worried about making mistakes and being taken out.... well.... Lillard doesn't have to worry about being taken out :grin:
     
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    Why didn't they waive Elliot Williams?
     
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    He might be able to play half a season in 2020!
     
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    Alas, poor Ammo! I knew him, Horatio; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy; he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! My gorge rises at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. Where be your gibes now? Your gambols? Your songs? Your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar?

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    lol, Allen being cheap again....

    What a horrific bench...Nolan, Price, Pavlovic, Babbitt & Jeffries are a bunch of scrubs...combined with a bunch of unproven rookies in Claver, Freeland, Barton & Leonard...and chronically injured E-Will

    What a mess of a team....
     
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  19. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    It's a mess if you want to compete in the playoffs.

    If you want to stockpile the team with as many young guys as you can get your hands on, and then throw in some crappy vets so those young guys have lots of space to assert roles, it ain't that bad really.

    Try to remember that Portland is still reeling from the loss of two franchise-level players without any compensation. If the Spurs woke up one day to find they'd lost Parker and Duncan, they'd still be a trainwreck a year and probably two years later. Ditto Westbrook and Durant, or Paul/Griffin, or whatever team you want. It just sucks.

    I wish we'd drafted Faried (so do about 20 other teams), but overall you look at those guys on the team and it's not a shock we're stuck with some crummy young players. Barton, Smith, Claver, Babbitt and Freeland are all non-lotto picks. So they're reasonably young, but also not picked from the cream of the crop. Just given where they were chosen, at best maybe two of them will have serviceable careers.

    Leonard, the only guy I'm terribly optimistic about on our bench, is also the only lotto pick on that bench.

    It's a bad bench, but it's not really a "mess of a team." Last year was a mess, where we built around vets to try to get to the playoffs and just failed. This year the goal is to develop young guys (and if it turns out they suck, get a good lotto pick), and I think the team is reasonably well-composed to accomplish that goal.
     
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    Give them a chance. They haven't even played one meaningful game together yet.

    Wasn't Babbitt a lotto pick by Minnesota?
     
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