Green or Webster?

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  1. iFR3SHi

    iFR3SHi BBW Elite Member

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    Who will be better in the future?my take is Green, he has range and can finish flashy. If works on his all-around skills he could be a beast in the future.Webster- He could be maybe a future Ray Allen type player because of his outsied shooting. Can drive into the paint good.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pinoyballa @ Aug 8 2006, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who will be better in the future?my take is Green, he has range and can finish flashy. If works on his all-around skills he could be a beast in the future.Webster- He could be maybe a future Ray Allen type player because of his outsied shooting. Can drive into the paint good.</div>Well, I would like to add that Webster will play nothing like Ray Allen if he even gets that good. He has too much athleticism to be just a great 3 point shooter along with his other offensive game being pretty good. I see him being more of a guy that likes to take it to the bucket(because of his athleticsim), as well as a guy who can shoot the 3 ball.Back to Topic: I see Gerald Green getting better. The only thing holding this kid back right now is playing time. He is young, talented, and raw. He hasnt played organized ball for very long which is amazing considering how good he is already. Once he becomes more mature of a basektball player, he will be deadly IMO.
     
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    we've already had this topic. and honestly, i don't think it's a contest. Gerald is already one of the best athletes in the league, as well as having an excellent outside shot and a midrange game. I can't see Webster being more than a role player.
     
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    I made this topic a while back, and Green won on the majority of responses.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Aug 8 2006, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>we've already had this topic. and honestly, i don't think it's a contest. Gerald is already one of the best athletes in the league, as well as having an excellent outside shot and a midrange game. I can't see Webster being more than a role player.</div>
    While I agree with you on Gerald turning out to be a better player, I have to STRONGLY disagree with you saying Webster will be nothing more than a role player. I think Webster has good potential as well, and he has a much better NBA body than Gerald. Webster is an outstanding shooter with a pretty stroke, he can make athletic finishes, and he is a better defender than Gerald. I think both of these young wings are going to be fine players in the future. But yes, I think Gerald will be the better one. He just has the mixture of athleticism/scoring ability that most wings envy, and he's a very hard worker with a good personality/head on his shoulders.
     
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    They are two different types of players and if they reach full potential should mold into two players that I really think they resemble.Martell Webster---->Glen RiceGerald Green----->Tracy McGradyMartell has a Glen Ricesque shooting touch with pretty much amazing range and it seems to be his main weapon.Gerald has T-Mac like athleticism and explosiveness. And that top of motion shooting release that T-Mac has. With all that being said, in my opinion, you have to take Gerald.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Aug 8 2006, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Martell Webster---->Glen Rice</div>
    Wow, great comparison, and now that you said that Martell does sort of remind me of Rice. Great shooter from anywhere on the floor, decent NBA body, more athletic than they seem. I have never seen/though of that comparison at all, and it might be the best one. I disagree with the Ray Allen comparisons, I don't know if Martell will ever be as good a shooter as Ray, or as complete a player. Glen Rice is a great comparison.
     
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    I'll take Martell. Websters got a much better work ethic, works harder on the court, does need to realize when the right time to shoot is but so does Gerald. Webster is also a much better rebounder and can drive much better than Rice could.Martell reminds me much more of Paul Pierce then Glen Rice even though on many scouting sites they compare Webster to Rice but he plays more like Pierce in the sense he can shoot,rebound, and drive and finish at the rack and get to the free throw line.Paul Pierce>Tracy McGradyMartell Webster > Gerald Green
     
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    How does Green have a bad work ethic? He went down to the D League because he was unpolished, not because he wasnt willing to learn. He improved alot last year, and ended up having a very decent season. He said in a SLAM interview that he will be working his hardest to become a better player. I just dont see what youre getting at there.
     
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    LOL, first to the SLAM interview, do you honestly expect Gerald Green to say" Im not gonna work hard enough this offseason" LOL...it's been proven he doesn't have a good work ethic. That's the reason he dropped in the NBA draft and Martell Webster was picked way ahead of him by the Blazers with the 6th pick.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That's the reason he dropped in the NBA draft</div>We still have no idea why he dropped in the draft. And it's way too early in both of those players careers to start judging them. We haven't even seen what these guys are fully capable of yet. Gerald's also in better shape this year, so his work ethic doesn't seem too bad.Another thing nobody has spoken about is martell webster is on the PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS, so he's already got that going against him. Hopefully that won't effect his development.
     
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    OK I HAVE to clear a few things up with RashadzMcCantz:

    1. Martell isn't like Pierce because he doesn't have a complete game like him, and Webster is a pure shooter. Pierce is a pure "scorer." There is a difference. Sure, Pierce can shoot, but he doesn't have that natural outside stroke like him.

    2. Green's work ethic is phenominal actually. He works as hard as any of our players, he's been working out all summer long, even when he went home to visit his parents. He's determined and has the drive.

    3. He dropped in the draft because his agent refrained from assigning Gerald to any workouts against other players, so he couldn't have a chance of getting hurt before the draft. He only did individual workouts, which held him back. If he wan't picked at 6 (Portland, who took Webster), there was no home for him because other teams behind Portland had different needs.

    4. He went to the NBDL because he was very raw comming out of high school. His complete game was raw. He could/can shoot and he's obviously an athletic freak, but they sent him to the D-League to get developmental minutes, since there was no time for him behind Pierce, Ricky Davis, etc. He needed some seasoning and work on his all around game. He came back from the D-League a better player and a better defensive player. He got his confidence back by playing in the D-League, and he came back to the NBA and he was excellent in the 2nd half of the season.

    So, I respect you taking Webster over Green, that's your own personal opinion. Great. But what you said about Gerald's work ethic was very wrong, and I had to correct you.
     

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