Voter experiences.

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    How many machines are there, and how many complaints?

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...round-States-Switching-Romney-Votes-For-Obama

    After complaints from voters in at least six states that their intended votes for Mitt Romney on electronic touchscreen voting machines came up as votes for President Barack Obama, the Republican National Committee (RNC) sent a letter to election officials in six states -- Ohio, Nevada, Kansas, North Carolina, Missouri and Colorado -- asking them to more strictly monitor their electronic voting machines on Election Day.

    John R. Phillippe, Jr. sent a letter to election officials in those six states and asked them to, among other things, "re-calibrate all voting machines on the morning of Election Day before the polls open, or, if necessary, the day before the election" and "make arrangements for additional technicians on Election Day in case of increased calibration problems."

    The RNC also asked election officials to "issue guidance requiring polling place officials to prominently post a sign reminding voters to double-check that the voting machine properly recorded their vote before final submission" and another requiring "polling place officials to remind voters to double-check that the voting machine properly recorded their vote before final submission, and to note that poll workers should be notified and can assist in the case of a voting machine error."

    In North Carolina, an early voter who wanted to vote for Romney saw her vote for him come up as an Obama vote twice before she was able to cast her ballot for Romney.

    The same thing happened to a voter in Ohio, when Joan Stevens hit Romney's name on her touchscreen only to see Obama's name come up -- twice.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    More from the above article:

    Barbara Simons, an expert on electronic voting who is on the Board of Advisors of the U.S. Election Commission, said "vote jumping complaints have arisen in every election that uses touch-screen voting machines, with the complaints going both ways."

    She said vote-jumping can occur "when a machine goes out of calibration" and the "need to re-calibrate frequently is an important reason for discarding these aging, unreliable, and inaccurate machines and replacing them with paper ballots."

    Election officials have insisted that it is "nearly technically impossible" to preconfigure electronic voting machines but conceded that faulty and old touchscreen voting machines were more likely to erroneously record someone's vote, especially if the machines have not been re-calibrated.
     
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    Wait, it's nearly technically impossible to have you select one choice, and register as another? Gimme a break. Seems awfully easy to do. Not at all saying that is what is happening.
    And if those machines are that faulty, seems like a great time to do away with them.
     
  4. Denny Crane

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    They're not faulty. They need to be calibrated.

    If you don't understand it...

    http://www.brighthub.com/electronics/gizmos-gadgets/articles/82196.aspx

    Basically, when you press with your finger, an uncalibrated machine can think you pressed somewhere else on the screen. It should be consistent for the most part. Like it's always registering inches below (or above) where you press. Or left/right, or both.
     
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    yeah, it is impossible to hack computers, everybody knows that
     
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    They're not hacked.

    EDIT - if they were going to hack the machines, they wouldn't make it so obvious by providing a visual clue.
     
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    didnt say they were

    and yes i agree with you, if someone hacked machines, it would be untraceable and impossible to verify
     
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    these machines are manually calibrated i assume?
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    Sure. You run a setup program that says "touch the upper left corner of this square (it rendered on the screen)", then "touch the upper right" and so on.
     
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    from your post:
     
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    exactly

    you are coming across as if there is a ghost in the machine, when in fact this is simple human interference, and quite possibly malicious
     
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    So what do you think faulty means?

    The position of the finger is detected by hardware and processed by software. If the hardware is faulty, the software will not be processing proper coordinates.

    If the picture tube is broken, you won't see anything on the screen. That's faulty.

    Democrats complained the punch card machines in 2000 florida were faulty because they filled up with chads and resisted people poking holes in the cards.
     
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    I don't suggest it's a ghost in the machine. Physically moving the machine from storage to the polling place can knock it out of whack. Or dropping something on the touch screen.

    If it's malicious, then it's the poll workers doing it, which would be a scandal that Rachel Maddow would explain away if it hurt republicans.
     
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    All paper ballots in Indiana. I was in and out in less than 5 mins. That douche Mourdock better not win.
     
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    Paper in Tampa, FL. Mrs. FromWA and I took the kids on a field trip to the polling place a few blocks away and then walked back down the riverwalk. No lines. We were asked for picture ID with signature, and signed on the pre-printed sheet that had our names and addresses.
     

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