It Is Over, Obama Wins

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  1. Spud147

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    Thank you... We have a winner!!! Some women are smart enough to look out for themselves.
     
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    Minstrel! There you are, I was wondering where you went!!!
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I'm a wanderer.

    That Obama is quite the dreamboat, isn't he? :devilwink:
     
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    You bastard... See why I love you so? :wub:
     
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    Repped. Brilliant, insightful post.
     
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    libertarians seem to fit the bill, as long as they can refrain from espousing all of their religious nonsense in an effort to gain support from the far FAR right...maybe republicans get be that party, but we need a 3rd party more than ever to get all the votes from the middle, as in...

    liberal socially, conservative fiscally

    many of these people are forced to vote for one or the other, when they should really have a viable candidate that can give them both
     
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    I would vote for that guy! There's a balance and we need options!!!
     
  8. Denny Crane

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    There's a difference between socially liberal/fiscal conservative and socially liberal and economically liberal.

    I don't think the former can truly exist without being really inconsistent in his positions. You can be fiscally conservative by spending 3x what we do now, as long as we tax 4x what we do now. Get it?
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    No, I don't get it. I think most people are talking about gay rights, and abortion rights, and sex education. Those sorts of things, in reference to social liberalism. Maybe some blurring in the welfare side, but I would say that's a fiscal issue more than a social issue.
     
  10. Denny Crane

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    Ah, that's the socially liberal part.

    Social liberty is a freedom from government telling you how to be or act or pursue your happiness.

    Economic liberty is similarly a freedom from government telling you how to be or act or pursue your happiness (when it comes to making money, owning property, etc.).

    A fiscal conservative may love big government, but only if it's paid for.

    A Libertarian doesn't love big government and sees no reason to pay for it. It's offensive, truly, to give away freedom in exchange for control by authority.
     

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