+1, I think your sis was really vulnerable after a bad relationship and she got into another bad relationship for all the wrong reasons (hated men at the time, didn't feel comfortable about being single/alone, didn't know who she was, et al.... whatever reason). It was a bad rebound and she hooked up with another person who was going to damage her again, didn't matter if it was gay or straight. Fortunately she's better now!
Okay since we are on the topic; I had a straight friend that has gay woman parents about 10 years. He was 100% fine and ironically a womanizer. Anyway, I remembered asking him if it was challenging. His response wasn't anything hard. His mothers were so good to him and his father didn't have a good relationship with his father. He said he just couldn't cope with how hard of time his dad would give him being with his mom and her "dike" mother. I've met his mothers and they were cool as fuck! Had me over for dinner many times. Good peeps!
And both of those things are offensive ways of putting all of one type of people into a box and saying they're all the same.
Bullshit King, and sorry if I'm offensive. And I didn't say that all gay people are the same! Stop putting words in my mouth. Show me the clinical data that proves being gay is genetic? There are no gay woman or men in my family for many generations, yet my daughter and niece are gay. Guess it was a hybernated gene or something right?!?! Stop acting like this forum is against you because you are gay. Frankly, I think it's cool you are open about being gay. I take no offense to it, and you've met me in person. Did I act like some homophobe to you? Now your opinion on me is offensive. Signed, The truth.
Yes, you did say all gay people were the same. You said we all live in the same places and have the same values. That there is a "gay lifestyle." Read your own post. That is horribly offensive. I've met you and I don't throw you in a box with anyone else. You are one of a kind and a guy I've enjoyed spending time with. I don't think the forum is against me. There are people in this thread that aren't offending me. If you think that I chose to be gay and that we all share the same values, then you are, at best, ignorant if not a homophobe. I mean, geez, I proved your gay lifestyle idea wrong and all you can say is bullshit? What do you gain by acting like this, mags?
I think everyone wants to live where they are welcome. There are plenty of places I wouldn't want to live (Utah, the middle east, innercity Detroit, China, South American, etc.) because I'm living a "straight white girl lifestyle". I have more than one friend who went back and forth because they have truly just fallen in love with the person at the time regardless of the gender. And I honestly wouldn't want to put a bi-sexual label on them because it's not a political statement or a lifestyle for them... it's just them!
I can absolutely agree with that. Just as a lot of Asians will migrate to the same part of a city, i.e. Little Tokyo, Koreatown, etc. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. But just because King maybe an exception or minority, doesn't make it seem like everyone shares his same views.
What do I have to gain? All I said was Bullshit? Sorry read the entire thread. I didn't only say bullshit. I have nothing to gain, but make conversation. I disagree with your statement that being gay is not a lifestyle. Sorry man, I just don't. Your thinned skin tosses out that it's offensive and whatever else. I actually have a ton of gay friends, and never once did they think I was a homo phobe or ignorant like you suggest. In fact, two of my best friends are gay and I can't wait for them to read this and laugh. We've talked about this and they believe it is a lifestyle as well. So fucking what? Why does this label hurt you? It's not like the world are picketing West Hollywood, saying "STOP YOUR LIFESTYLE!" Geez
So if I'm not living your definition of a "gay lifestyle," mags, does this mean I'm not gay? Because you said you didn't think people ARE Gay, that it's merely a lifestyle. If I'm not living the lifestyle, what am I? I'm gay and it's not a choice. When I was a freshman in college, I didn't want to be gay. I refused to say I was gay. I said I would never call myself I was gay. But I was still very attracted to men and even fooled around with men and fell I'm love with men. I worked hard to deny it but eventually a guy broke my heart and then I had to realize and admit that I was in love with that guy, that I was gay. And then I came to terms with that. I didn't choose to be gay but I did choose to stop lying to myself and others.
I didn't say it's a choice, but the lifestyle is the choice. As I've said already, that the majority of gay people migrate to the same place. So what if you didn't; all my friends did. It's not 100% accurate, but then again, being a Blazer fan has mixed opinions in it as well doesn't it? Let me be 100% clear and say that all gay people are the same, like some cookie cutter lifestyle; but many share the same views and migrate together, just like us Blazer fans are in this forum. It's human nature. It would be a freak of nature for a gay man to want to live in the most redneck part of this country and openly admit he or she was gay. Just like it's hard seeing Boston fans in L.A. or vice versa. Yes it happens, but not very much.
Last time I checked, you are Eric. Just like my daughter is Hannah. Both are gay and I like them the same. And I've said before; I explained the "Lifestyle" is the type of life most gay people live after they find out they are gay. I am not referring to it like being gay is a choice. The life you live after finding out you are gay is.... And as I keep saying over and over and over again. Most gay people migrate to the gay areas. And you are the exception. Good for you man. You are an individual. Maybe you are fighting it because you don't want that label. Whatever floats your boat man. You are still my friend.
if your gay friends think this is funny, then they have their own issues too. There are lots of self-hating gays. I have the toughest skin of anyone I know. Doesn't mean I should be okay with everything you are saying. It's not a lifestyle. I already proved that. You have tons of gay friends? How many? Are they all the same? Do they all feel the same about these views of yours? I consider myself to be one of your gay friends and I'm not laughing.
touché... You have a point there. I have about 10 gay friends and 4 gay family members. My best friend is Black and Gay. Most of my other friends stemmed from this friend. But over the years, I've had many gay friends who were friends of my sister. She lived in San Diego and we would all go clubbing together. And when I said my gay friends would laugh, they would laugh at the fact that you believe my comment that it's a "Lifestyle" is the choice of being gay or not. I know exactly what I meant; which clearly you didn't read. You still believe that my interpretation of "lifestyle" is the decision to be gay or not. My interpretation of "Lifestyle" is the choice after one realizes they are gay. To be with their own and live a open life with others that share their same choices.
You did say being gay was a choice. Read your posts. You said being gay wasn't something you are, that it was just a lifestyle. Yes, there are communities that SOME gay people move to because they want to be around other gays. But those communities make up a small percentage of all the gays in the world. Your view of gays is very narrow. Im not sure how many gay friends you have but I doubt they're an accurate sample of all gays. They're just a few people you know who happen to be similar. '
I'm flattered to be liked by you as much as you like your daughter. You've changed your tune now though. Initially, you were saying that being gay is a choice. Now you are not. Thank you.
