My take on the starting PG position, I think Bassy should start. Why? Here are my reasons: - He is a drive-and-kick PG that has eyes in the back of his head, and would be EXCELLENT with Pierce/Wally - If we start Delonte and bring Telfair off the bench, we will have ZERO shooting in the 2nd unit. We need some shooting and a reliable scorer - Delonte is just that. Tony Allen isn't, Gerald Green might not play too much, Jefferson can be but we still need a perimiter scorer. - Pierce has recently publicly stated that "he has never had a real drive-and-kick PG that makes plays, and looks forward to playing with him." - Delonte will get more touches comming off the bench, and can also swing to the 2-guard when Rondo comes in. No way in hell can we have Telfair and Rondo in at the same time off the bench. There you have it, I rest my case. I think starting Telfair, who I believe will thrive in our style of play, will excel with the starting unit feeding the ball to Pierce/Wally and penetrating. And I think Delonte will get more touches with the 2nd unit, and we NEED a shooter/scorer off the bench (Gerald could be, but nobody knows if he will get consistant minutes yet). What's your take?
i wanna see them both have some starting time at the PG spot but to start the season id say start telfair..you know delonte will be hungry for more minutes and play better than he already has (is that possible?) now that there's more guards
I think Delonte will start off the season in the point guard role, but honestly I don't know if Sebastian will be ready to have the starting role for a while, I think Rondo will some games before Telfair does. For one thing Rondo is Danny's man. That was his #1 goal with this draft. He's been watching him for a long time. Interesting point here, Rondo averaged 10.4 points, 5.8 assists, 4.0 rebounds, 56.4 FG%, 2.2 steals, in 32.2 minutes per game for the summer league. Granted, it is the summer league, but he still competed very well. Infact he had a better summer league than Telfair. Telfair had less assists, more turnovers, less steals, and shot a worse percentage. Rondo's defense can definately have a huge impact with our team. I don't know, that's just my opinion, right now I'd rather work with Rondo before Bassy. Also on a side note, I love the idea of Rondo and Tony Allen on the court at the same time defending the perimiter. :rock:
well i think doc's take on it is that Delonte doesn't need as many touches, which means Paul/Wally will get more touches playing alongside him. I think that Delonte will start at the beginning of the year, but when Sebastian becomes more acquainted (sp?) with everything, he will start.
Telfair should start because he is a pass first pg, and he should do a good job of kick starting the Celtic offense. I think you have West off the bench to provide a flair when needed.Thats my take on it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Telfair should start because he is a pass first pg, and he should do a good job of kick starting the Celtic offense. I think you have West off the bench to provide a flair when needed.</div>I agree with that argument that he could definately jump start our offense since he is a pass first type of point guard. But he doesn't provide the defense that Rajon does. I think Rondo will be contesting for a starting spot.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Aug 9 2006, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I agree with that argument that he could definately jump start our offense since he is a pass first type of point guard. But he doesn't provide the defense that Rajon does. I think Rondo will be contesting for a starting spot.</div> See, this is why I think a trade is comming. No way we can provide steady minutes for Delonte, Bassy, and Rondo. I agree with you, but Telfair also has 2 years under his belt to Rondo's 0. Who knows how good Rondo will really be. Remember when Marcus Banks averaged like 17 points and 6 assists in summer league (with incredible defense, like Rondo), and everyone was proclaiming him as the PG of the future in Boston? Yeah, let's wait and see. But again, barring a trade, finding steady minutes for all of D-West, Bassy, and Rondo is going to be hell for Doc. The man needs a steady rotation for christ sake. Clear the roster up Danny!
i hate it when people bring up Banks to explain Rondo's situation. Rondo is more of a true pg and he has more control on offense. He's a smarter player. And Doc and Marcus had a horrible relationship. That most likely won't be the case this time around. Banks was just a 6' spark plug. Rondo is a pg.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Aug 10 2006, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i hate it when people bring up Banks to explain Rondo's situation. Rondo is more of a true pg and he has more control on offense. He's a smarter player. And Doc and Marcus had a horrible relationship. That most likely won't be the case this time around. Banks was just a 6' spark plug. Rondo is a pg.</div> But you took it out of context. I was not comparing the games of Rondo and Marcus. All I am saying is that in 2003, every Celtic fan was drooling over Marcus Banks after summer league. Now, the same thing is happening with Rondo. All I am saying is that we shouldn't go ahead proclaim him as our starting PG before he has even played a preseason game.
i don't know if he was proclaiming him as the starting point guard, but he was considering the possibility. Rajon is the kind of player that will make an impact early on, as his skills translate well to the next level. He's extremely quick and an excellent defender, that's not going to just wither away at the pro level. Sure he doesn't have a jumpshot, but i'm tired of that being the main concern. NO one focuses on players' strengths anymore, just their weaknesses.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>in 2003, every Celtic fan was drooling over Marcus Banks after summer league.</div>I don't really remember everyone drooling over him, I know he had a decent summer league that year. The summer league is the summer league, we all know that, it's clearly not similar to NBA play. When I was bringing up Rondo/Bassy with the summer league I was just saying that Rondo pretty much had a better summer league than Telfair did. If the topic of this thread is battle for pg, telfair or west, what about Rondo?But still, everyone seems to be hopping on this Sebastian Telfair bandwagon, the topic of this thread, battle for starting pg?? What battle? Delonte walks all over Sebastian Telfair, he's not a true point guard but I would rather have him over Telfair right now. Bassy was a third stringer in Portland behind Juan Dixon and Steve Blake. Let's not make this kid out to be a superstar.
Not because Delonte is one of my favorite players in the league...but Delonte West should start because he is the better defensive point guard and knows the playbook and the Celtic's system much more than Bassy does.Redz is the better shooter, better scorer, better defender, and is Doc's boy and I don't think that an unproven Sebastian Telfair who's been injury prone in the league will start over Delonte West who's had a much better career than Bassy as of now and has been with the Celtics orginization much longer.
Telfair knows how to push the tempo, and to run an offense. The decision could go either way. Every team needs an offensive spark off their bench anyway..
after the way delonte played at the PG position last year, how could you not start the kid? he works real hard on both ends and is a very good player. all this hype about telfair though, i dont like it. hes a good player and all, but he's yet to play a real game in our system. give it some time, and let telfair get some games under his belt as a celtic before we let him take the job from a guy who played it so well last year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Aug 23 2006, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>after the way delonte played at the PG position last year, how could you not start the kid? he works real hard on both ends and is a very good player. all this hype about telfair though, i dont like it. hes a good player and all, but he's yet to play a real game in our system. give it some time, and let telfair get some games under his belt as a celtic before we let him take the job from a guy who played it so well last year.</div> I definitely see where you are comming from, and Delonte really suprised all of us with his play last year. However, there are reasons why I wouldn't start him. I mean I know it's tough not to, but: If you start Delonte, we have NO shooter off the bench (in the rotaton) and nobody who is a real valid scoring threat besides Big Al on the block. Other than Jefferson, we would have Telfair (can't shoot), Allen (can't shoot), Green (might not be ready for quality minutes), Ratliff (never could play offense well), Rondo (can't shoot). But... if you start Telfair then you have a good playmaker to feed Pierce/Wally/Gomes and run the offense, and then you have Delonte as a 6th man and will be that reliable scorer (and shooter) the Celtics need off the bench. If you bring Telfair off the bench then you have speed and a little athleticism, but no shooting and no scoring threat other than Big Al (and Gerald's token minutes). We need that stability off the bench and we need that outside scoring off the bench.
^^ exactlyi mean most of the players have enough skill to be starters but starting isnt always where they fit in even though they have the talent to be a starter
balla i agree with that too. im not really sure, i think with the experience delonte should start, but i think that either way there are going to be plusses and minuses.
