49.7 million Americans in poverty

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Yes it's a hard accomplishment; but then you must look at the entire legislation. During the times when a party had majority in House, Senate and the Presidency; they were able to accomplish that. Clinton had this his first term and Bush Jr. had it as well. Obama had it his first term too.

    Looking back at those 3 presidents; Clinton and Bush kept to their word and the country prospered. Obama had a chance to follow suit; but decided to pass more of the social issues; that limited the progress of the country. Then when the GOP gained control of the house; they were at a stalemate the final 2 years. Obama had his opportunity and failed miserably. This is why he is a terrible president. He had zero foresight on the state of the union financially. His far left viewpoints destroyed any chance of a bi-partisan unity.
     
  2. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    Most people I know who voted for Obama would have benefited from a 20% reduction in their taxes. Why would they vote for Obama?
     
  3. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Wait you said that doesn't work? Clinton used this strategy and our country had a stable revenue. Reagan used this and it worked out great. And this worked even when we had a huge cold war with USSR.
     
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    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    hmm only to address whatyou term trickle down..

    look at history, the only times that the econemy has grown at a substantial rate has been when regulations were eased or not in place and job producers had incentives to create jobs..
     
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    Politics as usual ain't gonna get rid of poverty, it makes no difference who is in the white house.
     
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    free phones

    public unions

    pink unicorns

    birth control

    war on women

    race

    illeagle imigration

    abortion

    fuzzy feelings when he is on TV doing letterman ...
     
  7. magnifier661

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    Well the democrats think large government (politics) does. So far it hasn't proved it can. Even looking back at the Clinton Administration; many of the fiscal plans were adopted from the GOP. This was why he was able to get economic issues passed. Him and Reagan were great at keeping both sides happy. Bush's and Obama have both failed miserably.
     
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    I would be in favor of that. I see little, if any, budget cuts happening though.
     
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    Its going to suck in the short term, but we need to go off the fiscal cliff. basically what is happening if we extend cuts and keep spending is....we make things worse.

    these poverty numbers are only going to get worse and they will be permanent the way this country is being run.
     
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    The $16Trillion debt and still struggling economy says that the government spending approach doesn't work.

    Greece, Spain, etc say the government spending approach doesn't work.

    How long until we admit this?
     
  11. maxiep

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    That's patently disingenuous. He was going to eliminate loopholes in concert with cutting tax rates.
     
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    I think we should pay for the government for which we voted. It's time to see what radically increasing the size and scope of government actually costs. I'm willing to increase my taxes as long every EVERY OTHER person who reports income does as well. We'll see how much people on the lower end enjoy big government.
     
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    And republicans think that total market control does. Either way, it's a handful of people trying to take your money. Neither way is going to eliminate poverty so as long as we're placing profits over people.
     
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    Talk about disingenuous . . . you aren't even working anymore, much less pay taxes.
     
  15. Denny Crane

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    Yes he was. However, every additional dollar a person made would be taxed at the lower rate. How Romney and Ryan failed to make that clear to people....
     
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    I'll continue to work; we're just winding down instead of continuing to grow. As for the taxes I pay; I guarantee you I'll continue to pay more in taxes than do you. Not just by a little; by a wide margin.
     
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    I lived through Carter's Presidency. No such disaster happened. Few Americans suffered financially until Reagan crushed the unions, starting the great transfer of wealth from Real Americans to the privileged and lazy few.

    Compared to Reagan and Baby Bush, Carter was a fiscal conservative.
     
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    What are you, 3 years old?

    Not even Romney's top backers believe that shit.
     
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    How were those 20% mortgage rates for your business?
     

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