Republicans, can I ask an honest question about racism

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  1. julius

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    Sure, and there are probably some gays who hate straight people, and women who abuse men.

    But it's historically straight men who hate against gays and men who abuse women.
     
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    Theres two kinds of racists the people who think they're above black people, the democratic racists and the racist who want all black people dead and like to bend over their sisters, the republican racists.
     
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    So racism must have a historical weight then? So if I walk up to black man and call him "buckwheat"; which has the same historical weight as "cracker"; that's not racist then? You think that's going to fly publicly?
     
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    btw, yes I know that whips weren't only used on people but cattle also.
     
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    It might be a good exercise to try and put yourself in a black person's shoes. Think about their history and what they face every day. Think about how white dominated everything is - TV, advertising, government, education, and so on. A little sensitivity to these sorts of things will lead to a better understanding.
     
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    Fez claimed it.


    That was a self-proclamation that only the Republicans would be racist enough to be in the KKK right?
     
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    yes, it has to have a historical weight.

    It's why calling someone who is japanese a "jap" is more offensive then calling someone who is polish a "pole".

    when one term has been used to dehumanize someone, it has more weight than the other used to make fun of someone.

    If you use a term to dehumanize or diminish a persons power, it has more weight. You show me a historical event, or a time period, where white people being called crackers has had the negative impact that ****** has or boy or buckwheat has.
     
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    Some here think that blacks being pissed off about racism makes them racist. If X punches Y and Y punches X in response, you can't say that we should find fault with Y for being violent.

    Especially when the punches are unequal--when X has a million police and millions of employers backing up his side, and Y just has hanged great-grandfathers on his side.

    (Heh heh. That'll get an answer.)
     
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    I am seriously sensitive to the history; which is why I would never say something like that. What I don't like to see is how, because of the history, it's okay to be racist towards white people. Two wrongs don't make a right.
     
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    This link says what is my understanding.

    http://racismschool.tumblr.com/post/18614015438/definition-cracker

    Definition: Cracker

    Cracker- If this name is used to describe you, it will almost always mean one thing. You are showing your privilege. It is NOT a “Racist term” as racists would have you believe. As a matter of fact, the origin of the word was not about race, it was about station. Oh and who made this word…WHITE PEOPLE. No really, this information isn’t even hard to find. If you are called a cracker you have likely shown either racist tendencies or overall privilege. It comes from the term “The CRACKER of the whip.” Being called a “Cracker” is equal to someone saying, “Your privilege is showing.”
     
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    i have no idea where he was going with that kkk crap, misguided as it was

    but im sure EVEN FEZ knows that there are liberal racists out there, just not as many as conservative racists, as your charts prove
     
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    Black people aren't being racist when they talk about race and injustice. Louis Farrakhan is racist, but he's way out there and I think in the minority.
     
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    no one is saying it's ok, they're just saying that you're comparing macro to micro.
     
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    speaking of inequality and injustice is not racism.

    The shit Louis Farrakhan says and does, is. (Is he even alive anymore?)
     
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    btw, your charts show that people are PREJUDICE towards blacks.

    Prejudice =/= racism (thats a common issue with people)
     
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    Well my opinion is life is to completely break free of racism; all nationalities must look past ethnicity and judge a man by their works. Even in some extremely liberal concentrations; there is massive amounts of racism "Israel" towards the muslims and vice versa. That is a prime example of extremists on both sides hating on each other. Many muslims in the middle east are considered very conservative and the Israelites being liberal are extremely racist towards the muslims in the middle east.
     
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    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_Difference_between_prejudice_and_racism

    You are right about that. Prejudice isn't racism; but they are connected because Racism is a form of prejudice. You haven't seen comments on blacks talking about being far superior in athletic ability? Looking at athletes, many would agree; but that is racism. The comment "Blacks are far superior than whites in athletics" is a racist term.
     
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    I sure don't agree that more men abuse women than women abuse men, especially if you include verbal and semantic abuse, which Magnifier is including. Just the opposite. I have been shoved around by my ex, stumbling to avoid falls down steps when my legs were in terrible shape, numerous times in the last year. I put up with it to see my son. On this board we listen passively to Crandc's manhatred (her diatribes have decreased since I began responding a year or two ago that they are manhatred) without argument.
     
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    I don't argue that racism isn't more concentrated in the conservative spectrum "Far right wing" faction of the conservative. But I've seen the same on the extremely left wing side of liberalism. Political party doesn't define a racist. A racist defines a racist. I am Republican and I have many gay friends, more black friends than white. I don't think I'm better than they are and I don't think they are better than me just because of color. I rate people on their efforts and personality.
     
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