So Sad, No More Twinkies

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  1. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    consider, if I had ran it into the ground, there ywould be nothing..If I had to close due conditions beyond my control..yeah I would give myself a paraschute.
    If itis aprivate company, its mine one way or the other
    If it has a board, they would have to agree to it, if they did, I earned it
     
  2. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

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    wow drunk much? lol

    many of the executives got large bonuses, and by god yes, they certainly earned them no? what a great job they did
     
  3. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    severance pay

    and I guess the board of dirrectors agrees with you..they recieved it
     
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    :lol:

    because something happens, does that make it right? man you are so brainwashed by the media
     
  5. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    Why?
     
  6. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Where the hell did this comment come from? I say if someone wants to join a union at a private company, good for them. However, they need to realize that it's not riskless. It's possible to push a company too far.
     
  7. The_Lillard_King

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    The comment came from the tone of some of the comments. Looking back, it was more Nate's comments at the beginning and some comments after that. Nothing to do with your comments.

    (Nate: no big deal other than I think it is wrong to think some person working a factory job doesn't deserve a good salary or one that is more than someone with a college degree.)
     
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    I think there is a perception out there that if you don't have a degree, that you are not as valuable and your salary should be capped. And businesses can take advantage of these worker by not compensating them properly because they lack a degree (or many other reasons). These are people, many, who have devoted their life to the company and helped them succeed as much as the guys in the coat and tie.

    Without a union, individually, it is a small voice that can easily be replaced and the individual can't really afford to start all over. But united, the blue collar workers can be heard and compensated for everything they have given to the company over a lifetime of work.

    With regard to Hostess:I think what happened sucks and everybody losses . . . but was inevitable.
     
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  9. tlongII

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    The market decides what your pay is. If you don't possess a skill that is in demand you won't be compensated handsomely. Unless you're in a union I guess.
     
  10. Nate Dogg

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    Twinkies are not done yet.

    Source: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/judge-asks-hostess-mediate-union-203749038.html
     
  11. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    We've shown we're really bad at trying to determine "fair" wages. Let the market decide, with a pre-determined floor (i.e., a minimum wage which is lower than the current one).
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    The judge is giving the union one more chance. They'll fuck it up, because it's not in their interests to capitulate. For the union, driving a company out of business is a sign of their power. And the union always puts its own interests ahead of its members.

    What a bunch of suckers these factory workers are. They should decertify before they lose their jobs.
     
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    I somewhat agree with this. Which means this whole term of being "underemployed" or 'underpaid" shouldn't exist. And those with degrees getting paid 30K/yr should also not be complaining because the market decides what they get paid.

    Of course this gives the corporations and big business even more power to screw with the labor market . . . but I get the idea.
     
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    Why stop there, why impose a pre-determined floor? Less gov't regulation is good right?
     
  16. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Not always. I'm not an anarchist; I believe in limited government. I do think the idea of a minimum wage is a good one, but I think it should be lower.
     
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    What is the harm in letting the market set the minimum wage?
     
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    market does not set min wage, in fact its th other way around, raise wages and prices go up..
     
  19. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    There's no real harm. I simply worry about exploitation of the mentally and physically handicapped. Also, if wages drop enough, the incentive will be not to work, because it will pay to be on welfare.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    we need to....

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