I'd say TOR.Kobe's 81, Lebron's youngest to 50, Chris Paul's first TDrapage.Oh, Gerald Green's first 2 big dunks in the NBA came against themand don't forget this gem
I would have to agree..They won't get to the playoff's off offense. They need some sort of defensive scheme that can prevent someone from scoring 81 points..
The also let Andre Iguodala's first career high of last season (26 pts) and a career high 6-8 from the field.
i'd say seattle and toronto. Seattle's will probably be worse now. i mean, i like a high scoring game, but it's just disgraceful trying to watch them playing "defense".
Now, I will have to agree with dogma and say Seattle. Toronto has made defensive moves that have improved their defensive. They picked up Fred Jones who is a good perimeter defender, Rasho Nesterovic who is a good shot blocker, and TJ Ford isnt a bad man to man defender.Seattle on the other hand has no good perimeter defenders and no low block defenders as well. The closest thing that Seattle has to a low post defender is Danny Fortson and the only reason is because he is so physical. Luke Ridnour isnt that good of a defender at all, Ray Allen isnt, and either is Rashard Lewis. Saer Sene isnt a bad shot blocker but he is young and enexperienced. I would say they have the worst defense in the league easily.
Cleveland had bad defense before Larry Hughes. Golden State doesn't have defense you should be proud about. New Orleans doesn't have great defense either.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Diesel @ Aug 10 2006, 09:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Toronto Raptors. Even Shaq got a triple double against them this year.</div>read my first post on this thread...
Phoenix Suns.We all know Nash plays barely any D, if any..All of their players run up the court, looking for a fast break, when a shot goes up. That's pathetic. It's not like they suck at defense, but they just don't wanna play it it seems like. Maybe it's D'antoni's fault.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Aug 10 2006, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Cleveland had bad defense before Larry Hughes. Golden State doesn't have defense you should be proud about. New Orleans doesn't have great defense either.</div>Why do you all of a sudden think that Larry Hughes is a great defender? Cleveland still is a mediocre defensive team and they arent known for defense at all. I dont know how Larry Hughes has changed them defensively when he only played 36 games for them during the regular season..
Sonics will be the worst next year. Toronto improved on defense because we got Rasho, who is an alright defensive center. And now we actually have a Center besides Hoffa and Pape Sow. Also we got Fred Jones who is decent.The Knicks, Suns, 76ers are also terrible on defense.
The suns aren't so bad now when healthy. The main reason they were poor defensively in past years is bc they were so small. Then they got Kurt Thomas, along with Boris Diaw and Raja Bell, so they are way better defensively. They shouldn't even be in the discussion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Aug 10 2006, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>read my first post on this thread... </div>I read it. I don't see Shaqs triple double on there. Jush a link to it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Aug 10 2006, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you all of a sudden think that Larry Hughes is a great defender? Cleveland still is a mediocre defensive team and they arent known for defense at all. I dont know how Larry Hughes has changed them defensively when he only played 36 games for them during the regular season.. </div>Hughes is a great defender. He really helps the team defense. Plus, were looking ahead, not behind. Gooden and Z are still Cavs, and Eric Snow is a nice defender. Plus the Phenom LBJ is improving.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Aug 10 2006, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>God I'd hate to live in TOR.</div>Why? Toronto was a bad team last year...but unless you live under a rock you'd see they have much improved and will certainly make the playoffs. So what if they let Iggy have career high. It could have happened against Detroit. He's 21 years old it had to happen sometime.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Aug 10 2006, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The suns aren't so bad now when healthy. The main reason they were poor defensively in past years is bc they were so small. Then they got Kurt Thomas, along with Boris Diaw and Raja Bell, so they are way better defensively. They shouldn't even be in the discussion.</div>I actually got through to somebody after the millions of times I defended their D? They aren't even a bottom 12 defensive team if they stay healthy. If they lose a specific player though like KT or maybe Raja their defense really goes down the tubes even though they have some other guys that can play D. KT is really the only one who knows how to rebound and can defend big men pretty well and Raja's just our best...It was definetly the Raptors last year but it may not be after the moves they made, we'll see. It could be the Sonics.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Aug 10 2006, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hughes is a great defender. He really helps the team defense. Plus, were looking ahead, not behind. Gooden and Z are still Cavs, and Eric Snow is a nice defender. Plus the Phenom LBJ is improving.</div>Hughes is not the 'GREAT' defender you think he is, trust me. I saw just about every Wizards game in '04-05 and all he did was play the the passing lanes. The guy said he would contain Gilbert Arenas from doing anything in the playoffs but then how come Gilbert averaged 34 ppg? Hughes is like a bigger version of AI on defense, he doesnt stick to his man at all, he just plays the passing lanes. Besides, Gooden will most likely leave Cleveland this off-season because of contract disputes. Z may be declining this upcoming season, and Snow is a decent defender. He's too slow and old to keep up with younger superstars.
