Question: did Olshey promise LaMarcus not to trade him?

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

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    Gibson/CHA pick/Mirotic makes a lot of sense.
     
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    None of them do. I was strictly talking about this season only
     
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    I'm kind of hoping that LMA just knows this is a growth year and is trying to pace himself, while developing his game. Hopefully he can turn it back on when it counts more.
     
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    You can be difficult all you want, but adding a center that is a big time rebounder and defensive player helps us more this season than Aldridge. That trade also improves our bench production....again, this year only type of deal
     
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    Like it! I can see the Wiz wanting to give up Nene, but I'm not sure they'd be willing to part with Seraphim too.

    Also intriguing. I like Josh Smith a lot more now than I used to. He's a bit wild, though, and is sort of a better Hickson - can't play two non-shooters together.

    No. I don't mind Ellis on somebody else's team, but he would make me pull my hair out. Sanders is underrated, though.

    I do love Varejao, but he is 30, and if we're trading Aldridge we want to get younger. Gimme Noah or gimme Varejao AND Aldridge. Is that too much to ask?
     
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    Just how many PFs do you want to have? Wouldn't it be nice to have ONE center?
     
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    What the hell is all this LA hate coming from? He is having a "bad" year after 11 games coming off of surgery with an injured wrist and injured back. Its a bad year if you consider 19.7p 3.1 assists 7.2 rb and 1.2 blocks.
    LA is a top 20 player, you dont trade an asset like that especially when the pg you drafted had shown real potential when the goal is not to fully rebuild but to make a run at the playoffs next year. Not unless your offered something you cannot turn down
    Trading LA sets us back significantly and we might as well kiss goodbye a shot at doing anything the next few years without him.

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    yes, but Gibson is Poison Pill this year and very difficult to trade for.
     
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    Gibson is more of a filler. I'd much rather take on his contract than Boozer's.
     
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    I don't hate Aldridge. But of our best 4 players, he's the oldest. The development of Lillard/Batum/Matthews makes me inclined to try to fill in the gaps, and it may be that dealing LMA is the easiest way to do that. I'm not totally sold on the idea, but I have a much more open mind to it than I did at the beginning of the season.
     
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    Im not against trading LA I just think every trade iv seen is undervaluing him. People seem to just be trying to find a trade to get ride of him instead of getting full value for him.

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    By the time we get that Charlotte pick as a "rebuilding piece", Lillard will likely be the same age that Aldridge is now. And then you'll be looking to trade Lillard for another pick 3 yearsout to go with that piece. No.
     
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    A) Not hate.
    B) Yep. Inefficient volume shooting is not good, no matter if you hate LaMarcus Aldridge or not.
    C) If you consider 19.7/3.1ast/7.2reb in another light, that's an off year for Antoine Walker, Jamal Mashburn or Keith Van Horn. It's not the counting stats. Put it this way, if Ronnie Price took 15 3's a game and made 4, would you say it's valuable to have a backup PG that could get 12ppg? Or would you beg him not to shoot the effing ball anymore?
    D) 2 years ago (heck, even last year before everyone quit) LMA was a Top 20 player. He has (for whatever reason--injuries, offense, whatever) abandoned the LaMonster philosophy to shoot over 4 of every 5 shots as a long jumper. That's NOT a top 20 player unless you're shooting significantly higher % than LMA is.
    E) To make a run at the playoffs next year means you have 11 months to suck. Even you'd agree that trading LMA for a project and future assets helps do that.
    F) Your definition of "significantly", especially when you don't know what's coming back, seems different than many others'.
     
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    The way to get best value from LA is to trade him to a team looking to make the move from fringe playoff team to a dangerous dark horse contender. Something i like is
    LA
    Smith
    Babbit
    Throw in
    For
    Millsap
    Kanter
    Tinsley

    Or
    Jefferson
    Favors
    Tinsley

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    Do you need to suck for 11 months to have a chance to make a run at the playoffs next season? I don't understand why we can't be mediocre, and make a run at the playoffs next season.
     
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    the suckage is for a better pick, which (at least in theory) gets you a better player, making a better team and therefore a better chance to make a run than being mediocre.
     
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    So you think a pick maybe from 5-8 gives us a better chance at the playoffs next season than LMA?
     
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    As I said in a few other threads, the only trade that makes sense for Aldridge is a trade that brings the Blazers multiple young players with upside and draft picks. However, the only trade that makes sense for the other team is if they are a piece away...... or at least thinks they are. Those teams normally don't have what we want.

    Houston is the closest

    Aldrich, Jones, Morris, Cook and a 2014 1st for LA, Babbitt and Williams and eeek that's not very good
     
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    No. I'm saying that a pick from 5-8 plus whatever we get for LMA right now has a substantial chance of making us a better team next year than LMA and no pick (#13 or #14). Obviously it depends on what we get, and if LMA ever wants to play like the LMA from 2 years ago again. I very much like Lillard, Wes and Batum and Leonard is growing on me.
     

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