Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> CB believes smush is the point guard because he guards the point guard even though he has no buisness running the offense or iniating. Lamar on the other hand does all the buisness of being the iniator, the point foward. He does all the passing buisness and its his job to do that.
Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> Smush plays pg, Kobe and Lamar run the offense. It's as simple as that. You dont have to run an offense to be a pg dude.
Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Aug 12 2006, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Smush plays pg, Kobe and Lamar run the offense. It's as simple as that. You dont have to run an offense to be a pg dude.</div>He is a pg by name and name only. I dont consider smush a pg.
Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> He may not play like a pg, but he does play that position, so therefor he plays point guard. End of story.
Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> In the triangle, there is an initiator. He initiates the offense with the first pass, last year, this was Lamar's job most of the time.
Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> But that does not make him a pg. There are a ton of players who dont play pg but ball handle alot, including Lamar.Melo thinks Lamar is the pg on the Lakers.
Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Aug 12 2006, 04:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But that does not make him a pg. There are a ton of players who dont play pg but ball handle alot, including Lamar.Melo thinks Lamar is the pg on the Lakers.</div>Which in essence he is because he does more of a pg job than Smush. But that doesn't mean because he's a pure pg because he doesn't guard pg's.By your definition kobe is a pg because kobe iniated the offense back in the day and guarded the point guards in the playoffs. He guarded Mark jackson and mike bibby. So therefore in your eyes, kobe is a pg.
Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>By your definition kobe is a pg because kobe iniated the offense back in the day and guarded the point guards in the playoffs. He guarded Mark jackson and mike bibby. So therefore in your eyes, kobe is a pg.</div> I think that's by your defination if anything. Because you said Odom initiates the offense.
Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> When did I say that you have to initiate the offense to be a pg? That was your garbage that you posted. PG's dont HAVE to run the offense really. You can still be pg, and have another player ball handle, like what happens with the Lakers. There is not a set role for any position in the NBA.Eric Snow is not the pg too right? What position does he play then? This is do dumb...
Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Aug 12 2006, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think that's by your defination if anything. Because you said Odom initiates the offense.</div>No, he said on msn to discredit the fact that odom does more of what a pg does smush. He said "does he guard point guards? And my answer is no. Now i'm saying to him, kobe iniated the offense too and guarded pg's. By his own definition, Kobe is a pg.Are you seriously thick or something? Do you understand real? YES, SMUSH ON PAPER IS THE 1 BUT HE DOES NOT DO WHAT A 1 I SUPPOSED TO DO.REAL, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT REAL MEANS?edit: OK cb, you can continue with your rubbish. Keep on believing Smush is the real iniator or pg of the lakers. And i'll keep on believing Odom is the iniator.
Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> Smush doesn't do anything to be a PG. He only guards the PG, which he has trouble doing that...You can't really call Odom the PG, but he is the closest thing to it, aka the Initiator. Kobe played this position when Shaq was in LA.
Re: Who is the real point guard or iniator of the lakers> When did I say that Smush was the initiator of the offense? I said that he played PG. You dont have to run an offense to be a pg. He is just there for catch and shoot opportunities. But that's where he plays pg. He guards other pg's, thats where he lines up at. Boom, he is a pg. There ya gdom runs the offense sometimes, but that doesnt make him a pg, it just makes him a ball handler. I think that your thinking that playing pg means serving a certain role. It doesn't. Players can ball handle without being a pg, and you dont HAVE to be an initiator to be the pg either.If you don't understand what I am saying here, and if you still argue with me then I wont continue.