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  1. Run BJM

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    I think this is kind of why scouts are bashing this draft pretty hard. No real franchise player types.

    Got to see Nerlens for the first time against Baylor the other day. I was very impressed by his competitiveness, toughness, and mean streak. Sort of KG-esque as far as his demeanor, which can be annoying but its what you want to see in a prospect. As far as his actual game, I think he projects like Josh Smith; no really refined offensive skills but alright at everything and will use superior athleticism to beat guys on occasion. Very competitive and defensively could be great both in the post and on the perimeter, rack up blocks and steals. Doesn't seem to finish around the rim that well, which is a major concern, but could improve with more strength.

    Like many have said here, Poythress jumps out of the screen at you at times. Hes a tweener, but a hell of an athlete. Not sure he has any refined skills he could rely on in the NBA at this point, but he can be impressive.

    Isiah Austin wasn't all that impressive but I get why hes a fairly high ranked prospect. Hes tall and lanky, pretty awkward in his movements and looks straight out of 1991, but also fairly athletic for a guy his size. He had his hands full dealing with the thoroughbreds KU was throwing out there. I see hes only averaging 0.4 bpg, which is fugging awful for a guy of his size and ability. On offense he floats on the perimeter a lot and seems to love the 3 pt shot at the top of the key. He can hit it, but you don't want your PF/C to be a complete non-factor inside the 3 pt line. Seems like he doesn't like to mix it up inside a lot on either side of the ball. Hes got tools and skills that intrigue, but my early impression is that hes soft and already in love with the 3 pt line. Don't want to peg him yet because I haven't seen a ton of him but I wouldn't spend a lotto pick on him expecting him to develop into a Rasheed type when he seems like hes much more likely to be a career Channing Frye/Brian Cook.
     
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    Dude is a baller and just going to get better:

    [video=youtube;teSdOWafRQ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teSdOWafRQ8[/video]

    I haven't been this sure of a pro prospect since Damian Lillard.
     
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    ...so, since a few months ago?

    BTW - Is anyone else impressed with Rasheed Sulaimon? He's playing with the confidence of a four year player as a frosh. All of the focus is on the UK and UCLA guys, but as far as I'm concerned, Sulaimon is the early Freshman of the Year.
     
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    His short arms seriously bug me. You can't be an elite C in the NBA with alligator arms. I'm curious to see how Myers develops. He's got all the tools to be a top 5 C in the league, but he's raw as hell right now.
     
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    He'll be a 4 in the NBA. His bounce makes up for the short arms. He's had no problems swatting the shit out of people in college.
     
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    Talent/Footwork/feel >>> arm length

    Ask Hasaan Whiteside how his 7'6" wingspan helped him in the pros.
     
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    I got to watch a few college games today, and the one that just ended, Illinois @ Gonzaga, probably featured the best pro prospect - Brandon Paul. He's a shoot-first, undersized guard, but I don't see any reason why he won't be a first round pick this year. I don't see any mocks projecting him that high, but he's playing better than most of the guards in most mocks' mid-to-late first region.
     
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    Kelly Olynyk was the best pro prospect in that game.
     
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    He looked like just a big, mobile body tonight with a few, unrefined moves around the basket. As mobile as he looked at times, he looked just as awkward on more occasions.

    He might be a better "prospect," but he's just that... a prospect.
     
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    Watch more of him. Is that the first time you've seen him play?
     
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    Well, it's probably the first time I've taken note of him. I watch way more college ball than pro, so I've definitely seen my share of Zags games, but this was the one I probably saw the most of Olynyk.

    I get it though. He's huge, mobile, and has a high Q-rating with his image and whatnot. I wasn't necessarily knocking Olynyk's prospects as I was attesting to Paul's.

    Paul really jumped on everyone's radar after that 43 point game against the Buckeyes last year, and I was skeptical of his ability to translate to the pro game at the time, but the more I've seen him play since, the more I think he can make it, albeit undersized and the type of player I wouldn't personally want on my team. He's like a taller Dee Brown. If you threw him two inches, he'd be a lottery pick.
     
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    Chad Ford believes this guy will be a top-10 pick this year:

    [video=youtube;iEfevuMV_Dk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEfevuMV_Dk[/video]

    6'7" PF (7'1" wingspan)
    Similar build to Kenneth Faried
    19.5 PPG | 8.3 RPG | 1.8 BPG
    Freshmen
     
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    Who is in the pic? I can't see youtube at work
     
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    *Bump*

    Anyone see Shabazz hit those clutch threes to knock off Mizzou the other day? That really speaks to his poise and confidence, two things that Noel hasn't really shown in his game so far. While Muhammad had ice water running through his veins against Mizzou, Noel was fumbling passes and throwing the ball all over the place in a panic against Louisville. For that matter, the whole Kentucky team has looked rattled and unsure of itself all year.

    Also, has anyone else seen anything to write home about about Kaleb Tarczweski? The guy was a top ten recruit and is projected as a first round pick, but in the two games I've seen him (vs. Florida, vs. San Diego St.), he's been a complete non-factor. In the last game, he was on the floor for 18 minutes and posted 0 pts, 0 rbs. I know he's young, big men take time to develop, and you can't teach height, but he's more of a project than I was expecting.
     
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    We shall learn a lot more in March but Nerlens Noel looks to me like a great rim protector!
     
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    Chad Ford said more than one scout compared this guy to Karl Malone.

    Also, Len is now rated higher than Zeller. I don't see it.
     
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    How about that Michigan team?
    Trey Burke is the guy I like the most but he's too much like Lillard so I'm guessing we don't take him.
    Tim Hardaway Jr. is a solid shooting guard, can be a good pro.
    Another player I liked was Glen Robinson the SF, a kind of do it all player, maybe reminded me somewhat of Will Barton and as much as I like Will, that's a compliment.
    Another solid player, maybe a 2nd rounder, is the lithuanian kid Stauskas, a good comparison for him may be Gordon Hayward though Probably not as good.
     
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