In an infinite Universe: Everything is possible

LOL wut? I'm still searching for the information that creation is taught in public schools? From what I've seen; that isn't happening. Maybe 20 years ago, but not today. But you think it's okay to make some sort of new world order and act the same as those Christians that went to South America, destroying their culture, religion and way of life because they thought they knew better?

In the end, if science cannot prove God doesn't exist and creation cannot prove it does exist; then it truly is just a matter of preference. Taking away free thinking from people is barbaric.

 

For a preview of where this is headed:

http://sportstwo.com/threads/206122...is-not-a-sound-belief?highlight=exist atheist

 

sorry, was just joking, with creationalist versus creationist.

 

Hahahaha I didn't catch that.

 

Googled creationism taught in public schools. Here is the second or third link.

I'm not saying you can prove there is no god. But you can't prove there is a god, and just you shouldn't teach things in school you can't prove. You can be christian and practice and study that, just not at a public school.

 

Nope I evolved since then. Maybe it was my major drug use or something; but I am open to all thinking. I think it's pretty damn cool that, we as people being of same carbon structure and chemistry (for the most part), have very different ways of thinking. That a 100 men could think 1 woman is either beautiful or ugly. Or that a concept or statement as simple as "The universe is infinite; therefor anything is possible" could mean so many things to so many different people.

 

That actually supports that creation is not taught in schools anymore.

 

I agree with you. That place is in Church, where people can go at their own free will. I do agree that if something cannot be proven; then it holds no place in science. But it doesn't stop a person in an elective course, such as theology or literature right?

 

again the statement (as used by scientists like hubble) implies anything POSSIBLE will occur in an infinite universe. it doesn't magically make "anything" you can imagine possible. if the laws of physics are fixed it doesn't make violating them possible.

there could be. the universe could also possess fixed physical laws/features that limit how far intelligence/technology can extend. if that is the case infinity doesn't magically make violating those laws/features possible.

well yeah but my objection was god has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. if god exists he's by defintion infinite and outside the universe/time, so claiming that infinity somehow makes god/creation more probable is nonsensical.

nah, i was just pointing out your misuse of the topic of your own thread. it really has little or no application to the probability of god/creation.

 

Yes the laws of physics are fixed; but new undiscovered laws could be discovered that could explain this so called "magic" you speak of. And it's not magic if it actually happened using true scientific laws. What we know is not the "end all"; that's what makes science so beautiful. Everything is possible and science holds no discrimination. In fact science is constantly trying to disprove itself. Only those that hold their own opinion and use the "end all because we can't prove it right now" theory as a tool, damages open minded thinking.

Yes but you are making an assumption. And to one that puts great weight on science, until you have the ability to disprove; it's actually just an objective thought.

Actually this isn't a valid argument. The Universe may have not been created by our God. Maybe it already existed. But maybe there was our creator, that is in the boundries of this universe. And because the universe is infinite; that God or Creator could have gazillions of years to evolve to a point were he/she/it/they were able to create a perfect solar system to promote life.

Well it doesn't seem you did a good job in exposing the misuse.

 

Even in an infinite universe, I couldn't get a smile in a whorehouse with a hundred dollar bill taped to my forehead...

 

has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. infinity doesn't make it more likely there are undiscovered laws of physics. different subject.

i'm not assuming or claiming anything. i'm simply making the point that what is or isn't possible is determined by other things besides infinity.

nobody i know of defines "god" to possibly include a superintelligent alien with a finite temporal existence who evolved within the universe. certainly not the creationists you previously referred to. that would be pretty confusing for everyone.

 

Oh Really? That's funny since undiscovered laws of physics are always there; that would definitely apply. Just because we haven't discovered it; has no precidence that it doesn't exist. What this was in reply to was your statement that the concept of this creation magic goes against the laws of physics. I simply explained that undiscovered laws could actually support that concept of magic; since it really wasn't magic in the first place. <-- This was a good try though.

Actually you did assume because you did not point that out. You were stating that God is impossible; therefor it cannot be applied with infinity. Thinking God is impossible is an assumption.

Creation is creation. And assuming that just because one believes a God(s) maybe some higher intelligent being that designed us; doesn't take them out of the group that believes we were created. I didn't know you knew every single person in this world? That's pretty cool.

 

I got a question because I don't really know the answer. Since the Universe is Infinite. How are we able to determin the amount of atoms? I never really grasped that concept; nor the maping of the entire universe. Have we seen the end of it?

 

Holy shit man that's cool how they figured that out. And frankly that does make some sense. So in otherwords; this would kinda explain the ability to form and reform new galaxies (circulation). I bet the gravity on the outter edge of the universe is super intense or something.

Another question... So if you are on the edge of this donut portion of the universe; I wonder if you could break out of the universe? I mean able to travel past it into somewhere else. Or is there some "metaphorical block wall" that would never allow you to pass.

 

Thanks man, that actually makes a lot of sense now. I can get on board with this type of thinking.