Wow Mike, thanks for posting. I think having someone mentioned in a news article come in here and post is a first for this forum.
Well that settles it! Thanks for giving us the right information! I hope you are blessed and able to find a job that will provide for your family.
Thanks for setting the record straight, Mike. P.S. Pritchard had to go. He couldn't see the flaws in the guys he drafted.
Appreciate the post. Sites that present salary information like the $115K get their info from people who work at the company and submit the information via the WWW site. Of course people can lie about these things, but people are saying they've read the same figure from a number of sources. I don't think careerbliss.com is the only source. I saw your post on DailyKOS as well.
DC, you got to let that 115K and that site go. Clearly those numbers you posted have nothing to do with Hostess. Not saying you intentionally tried to give misleading informantion, saying that after further discussion, even you should conceed that those numbers do not give any kind of indication what Hostess employees were making or have any insight to the hostess situation.
I don't know what Hostess employees were making. The CEO and other executive salaries, even with raises, weren't super high for company able to accumulate $1B in debts. I just saw people claimed they heard a $50 figure, and I thought it interesting enough to see if there was any source for it. There is.
If Unions were America's backbone then they wouldn't have bankrupted Michigan and California already.
Thank you all for having a serious conversation about this. I find it frustrating to read dramatic conclusions based on falsehoods that start in the hedge fund PR office. I don't care if people are pro-Union or anti-Union, the facts should matter. So many people seem to assume that their personal beliefs about Unions are relevant to this individual case. Being anti-Union doesn't change the motives or behavior of the company towards its workers. It doesn't make up for the pension theft. The media has destroyed this story and has already moved on. Didn't Pritchard draft Aldridge, Roy, Bayless and Batum? Anyone would have made the Oden mistake. Pretty solid core. Doesn't seem like a bad track record. Just sayin.
Apparently the Teamsters looked at Hostess' books and said the unions would have to make serious concessions. FWIW
this will be the trend in america, cut wages until people "quit", then blame them and send the jobs out of the country or to prison labor
Please, BB. They don't need to work. They have 99 weeks of fun coming up. Why do you need a company to pay you when you have unemployment?
are you insinuating that there is something wrong with collecting unemployment? i never have, but i know a few people here have
I didn't have a problem using it, since I paid into it. I also was pretty scrupulous about following the rules for doing so, though I've found out since that many aren't.
No. As I said, Unemployment Insurance is something that should be used by people who paid into it if they need it. Same as flood insurance, car insurance, etc. If my apartment burned down I would expect GEICO to reimburse me for my belongings that I've been paying to insure, and I wouldn't feel any shame in using it. Same with UI. Especially with the added benefit of making sure my kids were fed. However, I don't think 99 weeks is good (iirc, it's supposed to be 26), and especially if it's subsidized by the government.
In my experience, unemployment isn't fun, and if it goes as long as 99 weeks, is pretty fucking depressing. The longer you go without a job, the harder it is to get a job. That hole in your resume gets bigger and bigger. I was fully unemployed about two years, and was covered for 72 weeks iirc. back in 2001-2003. I was able to get a part-time job in late 2003, which lasted me until 2005 when I finally got picked up for some temp full-time work again. After that, it was clawing my way back into the workforce. I'm years behind on my 401k, and I always feel like my next paycheck could be my last. For people who give a shit about their lives (and that number is surprisingly high), unemployment is something that gets worse the longer it goes, until it stops. Then, it doesn't magically get better... it's just the same misery with no money. Thank god for my parents, or I'd have been homeless.
HAHA! So $66k a year, instead of $60k, is balla status. You know you're living the dream when $6k per year makes a big difference. Makin' it rain!
