Connecticut School Shooting

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  1. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    THat is true.

    is there a list of the shootings (historically) that involved hand guns? I think, and I freely admit I might be completely wrong with this, that the people who do these actions, aren't only using hand guns.

    I know that the vast majority of gun owners are law abiding people who would never point a gun at another person. But I also think that the vast majority of gun owners would still be able to own guns and would still own guns, if certain guns weren't available to them.

    Not sure why civilians have access to bullet proof vests, or some of the guns that the military or police have access too (or a variant of those guns).
     
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    Yeah that link I just posted. It's from the FBI and handguns amount to 68% of all homicides in 2010.
     
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    It is easy to play Monday morning QB and blame all of the people around the people committing these crimes. However,I would say there are many people with the same warning signs in all of our lives. Ben Davis comes.to mind.
     
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    best i could find right off

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    A person might want a vest for protection. Seems obvious. Afraid of gang shootings? Carry around valuables (like diamonds, etc.)?
     
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  7. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Not sure if homicides are necessarily what i'm talking about though. I would think most of those are run of the mill crimes (for lack of a better phrase right now), and not killings.

    And yes, I understand that the amount of these types of murders aren't high and that the impact on our culture they have is high, but I'm not sure how limiting certain gun sales or improving the background check/cost of certain weapons, would have an overall negative impact on the average gun owner.

    Just like how not all cars cost the same, why not make assault rifles/semi automatic rifles prohibitively expensive?

    If the gun is too expensive for you to buy, maybe you don't actually need to buy it. Much like a Porsche is way too expensive for me to buy so I don't actually need it.

    However, Porsche's weren't designed with the sole purpose of killing something.
     
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    We had this problem with people going "postal" and have not had one of those recently. Maybe there is something.to learn there.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    really, thats what you're going with?
     
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    Good argument.
     
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    Would somebody please inform me on what was said about me and my family. I joke around on here a lot, but I need to know what this bitch posted about me!
     
  12. julius

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    like I said (i think I did?), homicides vs the kinds of killing we're experiencing here.

    as others have said, mental health plays a huge role here. But like I said, I don't tink it would be such a detrimental thing to normal gun owners if it was harder for everyone to get their hands on certain weapons (most of which I would bet, they'll never use or buy in the first place).
     
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    didnt see it sorry man
     
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    I never saw it, so I can't help you.
     
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    Well, I did a quick search for bulletproof vests. What I found was a lot of online places to buy them and people asking about the legality and stating why they'd want one. The reason given (that I saw) was protection.

    It seems that wearing one in the commission of a crime is a felony on top of the crime itself.
     
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    There were some serial killers in Cali that never used a gun. They used knives or strangling. I remembered when I lived in Oregon, they had that "Green River Killer" guy that didn't use guns either. He strangled them as well.
     
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    The fact that you think wearing a vest should be an option (even students/teachers?) at all times is exactly where the problem is.
     
  18. julius

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    that is a good point. However, I think there are things that we used to have the "right" to do that now we don't, because it limited the ability for certain people to have access to information, or tools, to kill someone.

    Of course I can't think of any examples, nor were they from the "bill of rights".
     
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    And what particular point were you hoping to convey with this list of people killed with guns?
     

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