So I'm just curious... for those of you who believe that the second amendment is for protection from a tyrannical government, isn't an assault rifle the exact thing that we should be owning? You're not going to do much with hunting rifles if you're intent on protecting your country.
[URL="http://www.lp.org/news/press-releases/halt-the-massacre-of-innocent-children-by-ending-prohibition-on-self-defense-in[/URL] Here are some other massacres that were avoided with people being armed. This also sums up my thoughts on this subject.
Watching the idiots on MSNBC say people are paranoid if they think we're ever going to have to take up arms against our government. I don't want to see it, of course. I don't think it's imminent or anything like that. What the MSNBC idiots fail to grasp is that the civilians armed with guns keeps the govt. honest. They'll think twice about becoming more fascist about search & seizure, civil rights violations, etc., if we are armed. And some say it's ridiculous that the civilians could stand up to the might of the US military, yet we've seen tiny nations like Vietnam and other lawless situations like Somlia and Afghanistan turn into unwinnable situations for our military.
And I fail to see how gun ownership protects individuals from illegal search and seizure. The laws in our country protect us from them coming in, and citizens have the rights and abilities to go to court to protect themselves in that situation. A group of cops coming to search your house without a warrant becomes a much bigger situation if you then decide to pull a gun on them. I don't think they get warrants just because they fear home owners shooting them if they don't. And you mention vietnam and afghanistan. Yet they aren't or weren't defending their country solely with the use of items that would be legal firearms in our country, so it's an irrelevant point.
QT Denny Crane And some say it's ridiculous that the civilians could stand up to the might of the US military, yet we've seen tiny nations like Vietnam and other lawless situations like Somlia and Afghanistan turn into unwinnable situations for our military. while not well represented here, there are millions on X military, and many with combat experience..not just a bunch of rice farmers here..yeah,an armed civilian population does keep the government as honest as it can be..
You think any president would want to redo Waco (Branch Davidians)? Think of that on a massive scale. Every block in every city. Every farmhouse. And so on. We could not disarm a 30M population with 150K troops (Iraq). How are you going to disarm a 320M population with 1.5M troops? It is simply not going to happen.
why is the government planning this massive attack anyways? If they so desired, one missile would take out waco, problem solved. Unless oyu think they're worried about killing i nnocent people, which then begs the question why a war is happening at all.
http://freedomslighthouse.net/2012/...more-than-that-about-self-defense-video-2010/ “I had a lot of bad people after me and I carried a gun every place I went. . . But for me, guns are more than that. In fact, the most important part of guns as far as I’m concerned in my personal life is the recreational aspect of guns.” -- Harry Reid [video=youtube;flbzbFbKxK0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=flbzbFbKxK0[/video]
Look around the world. You see Arab Spring type revolts all over the place. It does happen. Greece, too, which isn't a middle eastern nation. So we've all bought into raising taxes forever to cover whatever the government wants to spend and no matter how inefficient. At some point, the middle and lower classes will be taxed 85% (LITERALLY) to cover the bills we've racked up all along. I bet that level of taxation could lead to some very angry masses.
Right because guns don't serve any useful purposes.... ? The same terrible argument. You are the reason for failure, the school was completely unarmed.
Once you get past the fact you're wrong about the purpose of guns, the rest may become clearer to you.
oh, right, they kill, or they are for entertainment for hitting targets. And then there's some for hunting. Of course, in hunting, it is killing. SO really, there's target shooting, or death.