Would you still endorse the offer knowing what you know today?

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  1. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    I thought the debate was Hibbbard vs. Hickson.

    I don't know who is better (althought I have an opinion), but I think one player clearly has a higher market value. I thought Hibbard gets 12 million/yr and I was pointing out no one will pay Hickson that kind of money.

    Is Hickson only allowed to get 8 million/yr? If someone wanted to and had room couldn't they offer Hickson 12 million/yr, or does the new CBA not allow that?
     
  2. KeepOnRollin

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    Debate wasn't either or, technically we could have had both. Not sure POR would have went that route but the option was there.
     
  3. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    OK. others here were saying Hickson was better than Hibbard and that was where my post was coming from. Should have quoted the post to avoid confusion.
     
  4. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

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    It is Hibbert by the way....
     
  5. blue9

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    Hibbert wasn't worth a max contract after last season and he's not worth one now. With that said, I'd love to have his defense. BUT, with the influx of talent at the C position we should be able to find a defensive C without paying out a max contract.
     
  6. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Hell yes. I think Hickson and Hibbert combined will equal less than the sum of their parts on offense, but the difference that Hibbert would make on defense way more than compensates for the difference...
     
  7. HailBlazers

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    Yup.
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    Hmmm.

    He shot almost 50% in his walk year, inks a new deal, and is now shooting 40%.

    Yep...that is the kind of dedication and passion the Blazers need! During time-outs, he can entertain the kiddies by scratching behing his ear with his hind leg.
     
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    Defense wins championships old man
     
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    Fair enough...but would you pay $12 mil to have Joel back? RH is not a better defender than Joel was, he is a worse rebounder, and he has become as big an offensive liability. (actually worse, since Joel knew when not to shoot)

    Of course, I'm old school. I view rebounding as part of a big man's defensive value - not a separate category.
     
  11. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    For what it's worth he's supposedly nursing a hand/wrist injury ... probably hurt himself hauling those sacks of money out of the trunk of his car.
     
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    That would make sense. Roy is quirky, but seems still serious about his job.

    I would still make the offer. We will be lucky if we can grab.someone similar this off season that would mesh well with our starters.
     
  13. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Question... Would a player like hibbert be able to have increased numbers playing along side Aldridge? Sly brought this up on the phone yesterday. Said that hickson may not get the numbers he got because teams are focusing so much on stopping Aldridge.
     
  14. blue9

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    As I mentioned in another thread, I haven't been watching games the past few weeks. But I don't see teams FOCUSING their defense on LMA. I see them focus on Lillard, but not LMA. Teams have ALWAYS let LMA shoot that 18' pick/pop jumper. In past years he'd get doubled on the low block, but (a) he's not playing there much this season and (b) when he is, it's a lot of single-coverage. Maybe this has changed in recent weeks, but I think it's largely a myth (like LMA being a great shooter) that LMA is the focus of opposing defenses.
     
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    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Absolutely. Hibbert would be great on our team and I think its clear we would be better with him. He is a superior player than hickson.
     
  16. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I can't copy the link; but you should look his shots on basketball reference. You maybe pleasantly surprised. Also I really recommend you watch more games too. Aldridge is really shaping up nicely the past 10 games. You will also see that you rarely see that pick and pop like we've seen in the past. Most of his shots are coming 10 ft from the past and in.
     
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    Over the past 10 games, he is shooting 23-55 from 16-23 feet. Thats 41.8% on 5.5 shots per game. It is getting better from where he was shooting there 10 times a game under 40%.
     
  18. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    And since he's shooting around 16 a game; 70% of his shots are 10ft or closer.
     
  19. blue9

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    Indeed! But I'm more interested in the long view - 10 games isn't going to change my mind. During the all-star "snub" season he had a period of 6-8 weeks of dominant play, but 6-8 weeks doesn't define a player or even a single season. I'm willing to change my opinion about him, but it's going to take a while.
     
  20. RR7

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    Yet you'd have no problem harshly judging him off of the beginning of his season this year. Splitting it into "halves", you seem content with judging him negatively on the first half, without adjusting that based on the changes he has made in the second half.
     

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