Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckson..

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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    Makes sense if we have our eye on someone else this offseason
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    Fuck yes, they should be trying to trade him. Dude can't play center full time and he's going to make way too much money for us to afford to pay him 10 million a year to be a backup big.
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    Hickson for Bledsoe, get-r-done!

    Develop him like how Dallas used JJ Barea off the bench and w/Jason Kidd.

    :edit:

    Damn, Joel Freeland as a starter. NVM...
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    I can see that if the goal is to go after Pekovic. Hickson might be too expensive as a backup.

    I'm not sure if I'd rather have LA or Hickson as our starting PF though.
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    You don't want Hickson as your starting power forward. You want LMA fully recovered from hip surgery next year. Trust me.
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    I'd rather keep both, they work well together.

    If we want to trade Hickson for cap-space we can just not re-sign him.
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    I like JJ, but I think trading him is a good move. We need to get a bigger C to play some D and protect the inside.


    On another note, I thought Meyers was only supposed to miss the road trip, but he is still out. Any news on him?
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    They don't work well together ... defensively. As far as trading him for cap-space, I wouldn't do that, because you're right, that doesn't make much sense. I would however trade him for a first round pick or some journeyman big with a modest contract or a guy they thought would compliment LA for a couple of years.
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    Leonard is out for a couple of weeks with his ankle sprain last I saw a few days ago.
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    You have to take into account what you can get for LMA vs what you can get for Hickson though. If Hickson gives you 85% (just a number - pick your own) of LMA production at PF then it gets interesting depending on what comes back.

    That is of course assuming you only get someone like for Mike Dunlevy or Jason Smith for Hickson or you only get a late first in trade for him where as with LMA you get Gortat and Dudley or Noah and Belinelli (just examples once again).

    I wouldn't look to trade LMA, but I also wouldn't be against it in the right deal.
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    LaMarcus is underpaid when you look at his production versus his contract, if you trade him it's incredibly unlikely you are going to be bringing back a superior talent in the trade. Hickson is also underpaid compared to his contract, but that calculus runs out in June, when he's almost certainly going to be overpaid relative to his actual impact on wins and losses.

    Does that mean I wouldn't trade LaMarcus? No, but the circumstances would have to be right and the target would have to be a very specific player ... that I can't think of right now.
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    Hard to sell Hickson high, but good for them
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    I'm not sure a team will want to trade for him if his bird rights don't transfer.
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    Ya. I think it's finding a team that either

    A: Has the cap space to sign him
    B: Doesn't care about signing him but wants to rid a contract (multiple players from Portland)
    C: Thinks it can win this year with rebounding help and inside scoring)

    Any thoughts?
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    But at the same time, you also have to factor in that the Blazers will want back:

    A) Young talent

    B) Draft picks

    C) Size

    So finding a combo of your three points and my three points will be damn hard.
     
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    with the new CBA I'll be pretty surprised if JJ garners a contract in that range from anyone. 7M per would be my top end guess for his services. Nothing wrong with them exploring the market tho

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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    Hickson loses his Bird Rights if he is traded, right? He can also veto any trade, right? I can't think of a scenario where he'd give up those rights, and with it, the ability to negotiate a sign and trade with any team in the league next off season. In Portland he is in a great position to produce good numbers, and increase his value going into free agency. If the Blazers get anything for him it seems most likely it'll be in the form of a sign and trade after the season.
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    We should trade JJ to the Lakers for Steve Blake. :MARIS61:
     
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    Re: Ben Golliver says on Talkin Ball says the Blazers maybe trying to trade JJ HIckso

    his Bird Rights are only good for us (or if we S&T, but we can't take back more than we have in cap space). They allow his team to go over the cap to sign him, and he could get 7.5% raises instead of 4% raises. For what he's projected to get the difference is about 1M over the course of a 4yr contract.

    However, that's the exact same scenario (minus the extra 250k/yr) that he'll have if he just goes to free agency. So the veto might be useful if he really doesn't want to go someplace, but financially and career-wise there really isn't a big deal.
     
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