Israeli Air Strike in Gaza City Kills the Military Leader of Hamas

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  1. BrianFromWA

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    I think you mean "millenia"
     
  2. DaLincolnJones

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    Yeah, I had several choices there, just dident want to give those that build men of straw any reason to drag it into the weeds..
     
  3. Denny Crane

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    So what?

    Let them build their own homes if that's what it takes for them to have a sense of self worth. I can see it.

    There are maybe 3.5M arabs who call themselves palestinians. I'd bet the number of militant people there who want war are on the order of tens of thousands or maybe as many as 5%.
     
  4. Haakzilla

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    [video=youtube;n3bxj1uvDXU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3bxj1uvDXU[/video]
     
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    Amazing how shortly after the Jews persecution of WWII they went out on their own path of persecution.
     
  6. DaLincolnJones

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    this is an anti zion film, full of half truths..if you keep clicking on associated links you will be blessed by muslim readings
     
  7. MARIS61

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    Oops!

    Except for the temporary exception of Afghanistan/Pakistan where we are paying for every building we blow up and every funeral we create, Israel is by far our biggest drain of foreign aid dollars. Has been since it's inception.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid#Recipients
     
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  8. DaLincolnJones

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    I dont understand Maris, it is less than what we give to the rest of the middle east..ad those that make no pretense at being "our friend"and cut those off..if you are so concerned about foreign spending..
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    Both Egypy and Israel get military aid only, not that I like it. And we've only been giving aid to Israel since the late 1960s.

    But don't let facts get in your way.
     
  10. Haakzilla

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    ...such as? :dunno: Zionism is the root of most evil in the world today. Associated links have nothing to do with the content of the video.
     
  11. MARIS61

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    That number is 0.
     
  12. MARIS61

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    Either way you look at it, both sides murdered a child for their own egos.
     
  13. MARIS61

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    Israel didn't exist before 1948, and in addition to start-up money and yearly financial assistance for over a decade exceeding that from any other country in the world it is true we didn't officially count it as foreign aid until around 50 years ago.

    Total amount of foreign aid, per country and per capita. Also of note is the % of GDP, which shows Israel clearly doesn't need the money. So it's a bribe or payoff, not actual aid. That they use it all for killing arabs rather than building schools or hospitals tells me all I need to know about them.
     
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    Doesn't make it true, that's for sure.
     
  15. Denny Crane

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    You are confused.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_and_the_Arab–Israeli_conflict

    For Soviet foreign policy decision-makers, pragmatism took precedence over ideology. Without changing its official anti-Zionist stance, from late 1944, until 1948 and even later, Joseph Stalin adopted a pro-Zionist foreign policy, apparently believing that the new country would be socialist and would accelerate the decline of British influence in the Middle East.[1]

    The USSR began to support Zionism at the UN during the 1947 UN Partition Plan debate. It preferred a Jewish-Arab binational state. But if this proved impossible it indicated that it would support partition and a Jewish state. On 14 May 1947, the Soviet ambassador Andrei Gromyko announced:

    "As we know, the aspirations of a considerable part of the Jewish people are linked with the problem of Palestine and of its future administration. This fact scarcely requires proof.... During the last war, the Jewish people underwent exceptional sorrow and suffering....

    The United Nations cannot and must not regard this situation with indifference, since this would be incompatible with the high principles proclaimed in its Charter....

    The fact that no Western European State has been able to ensure the defence of the elementary rights of the Jewish people and to safeguard it against the violence of the fascist executioners explains the aspirations of the Jews to establish their own State. It would be unjust not to take this into consideration and to deny the right of the Jewish people to realize this aspiration." [2]

    Shortly after this speech, the Soviet media temporarily stopped publishing anti-Zionist material.[3]

    It followed this policy and gave support to the UN plan to partition the British Mandate of Palestine, which led to the founding of the State of Israel.

    On May 17, 1948, three days after Israel declared independence, the Soviet Union legally recognized it de jure, becoming the first country to grant de jure recognition to the Jewish state.[4][5] In addition to the diplomatic support, arms from Czechoslovakia, part of the Soviet bloc, were crucial to Israel in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

    (The USA did't send any arms to Israel before the 1960s)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France–Israel_relations

    After the Israeli Declaration of Independence in 1948 and in the early 1950s, France and Israel maintained close political and military ties as common enemies of Pan-Arab nationalism. France was Israel's main weapons supplier until its withdrawal from Algeria in 1962 removed most common interest from the relationship, and France became increasingly critical of Israel, especially after the Six-Day War in June 1967, when Charles de Gaulle's government imposed an arms embargo on the region, mostly affecting Israel.[1]

    (but rave on)
     
  16. MARIS61

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    No relation to anything I posted.
     
  17. Denny Crane

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    ^^^ Except the foreign aid you claim we didn't count came from the French and Russians. We didn't count it because we didn't pay it.
     

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