Bonnie Bernstein Explains Ray Lewis’s Crimes With An Unfortunate Parable

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  1. magnifier661

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    The DA did; since they felt they really didn't have a case to throw the book on Lewis. If there was insurmountable evidence that Lewis was involved or guilty of murder; they wouldn't have plea'd bargained him.
     
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    I'm confused, did Ray Lewis smoke cigarettes or not?
     
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    Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson. Two examples of people getting away with crimes based on technicalities in how a jury must rule.

    Ryan Braun. Richard Sherman. People get off on technicalities all of the time.

    If someone sued me and I were innocent, I wouldn't stand for that - I'd defend myself to every last breath. Especially when someone is accusing me of murder. And then I'd counter-sue. Ray Ray knew the evidence was absolutely not in his favor. So he settled and got a confidentiality agreement.
     
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    Yes jury's can be mislead; but a DA is pretty heady. They would know if they have a good enough case to put Lewis on trial. If a DA thinks they have a good case; they will not plea; even if that person may testify.
     
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    Simply because people were being uncooperative. Something Lewis told the witnesses to do.
     
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    You aren't in his position. Even our company has paid people; even though we were innocent. You don't have any idea the cost of a trial like this. The settlement amount maybe way less than the actual lawsuit. Sometimes you settle just to keep someone from talking and saving money on attorney fees.
     
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    Tell that to Kaylee Anthony.
     
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    I get that part of it for businesses. Lot more gray area in some of that.

    Ray knew the evidence was not in his favor.
     
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    Oh come on man. The DA have been having these issues on cases that are slam dunks; yet they swing for the fences. If the DA had the evidence to convict Lewis; then they would never have plea'd out.
     
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    i dont think anyone thinks lewis actually did the stabbing
     
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    You have 2 choices. Say FUCK YOU I'm INNOCENT! and go before a jury that could get you for murder; or 1 year probation for obstruction of justice? Which would you choose? Now remember if you are found guilty; you have a minimum of 20 years in prison.
     
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    So what are we arguing about? He said he was guilty for obstruction of justice. If that's it; then justice was served.
     
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    Leaping to the conclusion they are innocent? Yes I am...because that is the law. Innocent until proven guilty.

    Sneer all you want, but that is one of the corner stones of a free society.
     
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    Civil suits simply against an individual versus a business lawsuit are two very different types of beasts, by the way (I've been involved in both).

    And no, had Ray Ray lost the civil suits, there would have been no prison time. He made a plea deal to get out of possible jail time. Civil suits are about nothing but money. They'd have no impact. Just like when OJ lost his civil suits, but had previously been acquitted.
     
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    Fixed. Now that the government can freeze assets or raid your home on just suspicion; we don't have this right anymore.
     
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    so you think oj is innocent of murder? really? :lol:
     
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    Cool story bro.

    When evidence and Ray's actions speak to his own personal admission of guilt (and I'm not even saying he's guilty of murder, but he has some guilt in all of this), I'll let that determine my belief.

    But it's cool. You just keep convincing yourself that having deep pockets in this "free society" makes no difference in freeing the guilty.
     
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    The civil suit doesn't have jail time. I confused what you were referring to. I thought you were talking about how the DA plead him out.

    And my argument for the civil suit stays the same. A trial of this magnitude takes years. During this time; the attorneys could dig up so many things on Lewis that could hurt his reputation. There will always be this question of if he did it, etc. With pleaing out; all that is closed and nothing can be made public. For that; it's worth settling; especially since he needs to play football and endorse for more profits.
     
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    Or the Hurrican was guilty?
     
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    Good question. Even if you believe the jury was incompetent and the other 2 guys actually were guilty, why is that Lewis' fault? What do people think - that he paid those guys to randomly stab a stranger?
     

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