Defending The Second Amendment and The Constitution

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  1. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Given that Romney was the only other choice presented, I voted for Obama. Would have to do it again in the same situation. Romney would be doing exactly the same thing as far as gun control. The POTUS is but a puppet no matter what his party.
     
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    A New York lawmaker released a “secret list” of Democratic gun control plans. The Republican reportedly feels the proposals would undermine the Second Amendment. As previously reported by The Inquisitr, New York recently approved some of the most restrictive gun laws in America.

    Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin used Facebook to inform his constituents on the matter. McLaughlin maintains his Democratic peers begged him not to release the gun control secret list. The New York assemblyman stated the Democrats did not want the public to view the list of proposed gun control laws.

    McLaughlin maintains the secret gun control agenda would have passed if he and others had not fought back.

    The list of Democratic gun control proposals included:
    Confiscation of assault weapons
    Confiscation of 10 round magazine clips
    A statewide database of all guns
    Continue the process of publishing gun owners names and addresses
    Labeling of all semi-automatic shotguns with pistol grips or more than five round capacity as assault weapons
    Limit magazine round to five and confiscate banned magazines
    Prevent citizens from owning more than two magazines
    Prevent citizens from buying more than one gun per month
    Re-license all current pistol permit holders
    Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years
    Pistol permits would be issued by the state and not local law enforcement
    Licensing of ammunition dealers
    All New York guns would be micro-stamped
    All guns would have to be kept locked inside the home
    Add a fee for registering and licensing guns

    http://www.inquisitr.com/490856/democrats-secret-gun-control-list-revealed/

    Yeah, nobody wants to take the guns. You can now stick your heads back in the sand.

    As a point of sickening interest....How hypocritical is it that the administration that equipped the Mexican drug cartels with fully automatic weapons now wants to champion more restrictions on legally owned weapons?

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    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    True story... yesterday the house across the street from me got shot up in a driveby. I heard what I thought was somebody rapping on my window, but no it was some a-hole popping off 5 shots. How exactly do you defend yourself against a drive-by?
     
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    I just googled Seattle drive by shooting. Didn't realize how bad it is there now. I'd gtfo and live somewhere nicer.
     
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    Weekend before last in Eugene, they arrested a guy for stabbing another guy multiple times. Arrested him on Saturday night and released him on Monday morning. No room in the county jail. This was a Measure 11 crime with a mandatory sentence of 7-1/2 years.

    They have been releasing home invasion burglars (breaking in while you are home) the next day for lack of beds in the slammer.

    Wonder why I feel like I need to be able to protect myself?

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    jail is too full of weed smokers, dont want psychos as your slave labor
     
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    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    Got a link OG, find it hard to believe they would release a guy under those circumstances. I know Eugene is liberal and all, but even Multnomah County doesn't release under those circumstances . . . and this is a county that will write you a citation to appear in court if caught stealing a car.
     
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    http://www.registerguard.com/web/news/sevendays/29341189-47/fire-jail-eugene-police-plane.html.csp

    I'm a little dissappointed that you would think I just made that up TB. It's not a "liberal" issue. Lane County is broke. They used to be rich from timber receipts from logging on federal land. Now that there is very little logging on federal property, Lane County doesn't have the money to operate, or even provide for the safety of the residents. (The City of Eugene doesn't have it's own jail, but uses the County's facility.)

    I don't have a link, but a couple of years ago, there was a family in that lived inland from Florance (also Lane County). They heard someone shooting on their property. When the landowner went to check it out, he found a guy trespassing on his property, shooting his gun. He told the guy he was trespassing and said he needed to leave. The guy told him to FO, and fired a couple of rounds at/near him, but didn't hit him.

    The guy jumped in his truck and went back to his house. His wife was calling police when the owner went back outside by his truck, and the trespasser fired a couple more shots that he heard wizz by him. The wife was told that the county didn't have anyone to send, period. They never did respond to the call. Ever.

    The County has a fairly new jail with about 500 beds, they currently have staffing to have about 140 beds in use. The county is asking for a public safety bond, and if they don't get more money, they will cut the number of beds in use to about 40. The sheriff was asked in an interview how people should keep themselves safe if the sheriff can't provide for the public's safety. His answer was, "Get a dog."

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    My apologies OG.

    I really had a hard time believing they would release someone charged with Assualt I and wanted to read about it. I understand how that came across as not believeing you, I was actually thinking you or the artilce somehow got the facts wrong. Clearly I was the one wrong and in hindsite, I can see how that can look like it was a dig on you and I apologize.

    I read it and still can't believe they are releasing people in that situation. I always thought Multnomah County was the worst when it came to release of criminals, but never underestimate the power of a budget I guess.

    FWIW- thanks for the link . . . Lane County criminal system has serious problems.
     
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    It's all good, TB. And, yes, Lane County is seriously screwed up.

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I would want a 30 clip magazine in case I missed with the first 29 shots.
     
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    If I had 2 home invaders in my house at 3:00 am, I would want to know that I can take care of business. Having a shootout against more than one bad guy, in a pitch black house, means you are not going to be able to take careful aim for each round. I don't blame anyone one bit for wanting maximum fire power to protect themselves and their families.

    Btw, I've never owned an 'assault rifle' or a 30 round mag.

    One parting comment. If you don't own a gun, you are somewhat protected by the fact that others do. Home invasion would become epidemic if the bad guys knew that nobody had guns. Even when only part of the population has guns, the home invaders don't know which houses have them and which ones don't. The prospect of walking into a house with an angry owner of an assault rifle with a 30 round mag undoubtedly keeps many thugs from taking up the home invasion profession.

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    http://www.galvestondailynews.com/news_ap/politics/article_e0404848-5bc1-5c01-a9b4-5d83b87b1f3f.html

    The one thing that we can be sure of is that this administration will not let the truth stand in the way of placing more restrictions on our 2nd Amendment rights. Fact is, Biden was telling a straight-up lie to further his agenda.

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    To be fair, he'd have been right if he said 92%.
     
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    Was thinking about getting this for home protection. Has a 250 round drum mag.

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    I would be more fair about it if he had said 98% favored more background checks.

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