Offseason: One big player or three good bench players? What would you do?

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Which path would you take for our offseason?

  1. Go Big (Pekovic, Jefferson, Josh Smith, Paul Millsap etc.)

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  2. Bench Shopping (getting three quality bench players)

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  3. Neither (lopsided trades for assets, players etc.)

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    You think? I personally don't think so since Prince is getting 7.2 mil next season, 7.7 the following. Matthews, on the other hand is getting 6.8 mil and 7.2 million, is younger, plays good defense and shoots the ball at a much better rate. Detroit is also probably going to either match a 11-13 mil contract for Maxiell that will chock hold any ability to have cap space this summer if they want to keep him. If they let Maxiell go and do this deal; they still have 11 million free to offer a free agent.
     
  2. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    If you want Monroe Mags, Hickson and Matthews probably aren't going to get it done.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I think it's debatable, but definitely leaning more towards your opinion. I am offering something that helps Detroit with their cap space, retain a solid PF without having to give theirs 12-13 million, and grab a defensive minded solid shooting SG. I don't think it's as bad as you think. And possibly take back Prince, so they can rebuild properly.

    Now they can use their good draft pick to pick up a SF; which I read is a decent class in this draft.

    Detroit after this deal would have a starting line-up of:
    PG: Stuckey, SG: Matthews, SF: Free Agent/Draft Pick, PF: Hickson, Center: Drummand. All the players are under 25. EDIT: Fuck Stuckey and Matthews are 26, my bad.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Detroit wants to get rid of Stuckey, probably needs to upgrade from Tayshaun and definitely wants to keep Monroe and Drummond.
     
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    I think Detroit would like to have Matthews, but Monroe is probably a foundation piece with Drummond. That's a pretty nice PF/C combo for years. What they could probably use is an upgrade at SF. Unless you could convince them that Matthews could be that guy, you'd need to do a 3 way somehow, netting us guys like Singler and Jabreko along with maybe a pick
     
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    I'm not saying I disagree with anything you are saying. What you would like and what you can keep and improve are two separate issues, IMO. Monroe would be their most valuable trading asset without losing too much. Drummand is obviously their foundational piece and they want to replace Prince with a younger player.

    If they really want to get rid of Stuckey; then you can just add him to the mix, adding Clavar too (young SF).
     
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    Mags, I can almost feel the mental gymnastics you are going through trying to convince yourself that Monroe is attainable for our bits and pieces. If you want him then you have to trade Batum to get him.
     
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    This is kinda how I feel as well, Mags. 28 other teams would love to have Monroe, so IF Detroit felt the need to deal him, they probably wouldn't have to "settle"
     
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    I just don't see Hickson and Matthews being "bits and pieces". But if you say so.
     
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    JJ puts up empty stats. You have posted several times that his defense s not good, and read several times that his actual production vs what he gives up isn't good either.

    Matthews has yet another year of below 15.00 PER
     
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    Prince is having a 12.9 Per and Monroe is 19.4. Matthews is at 14.3 and Hickson is 20.5. Matthews is 6 years younger than prince, while Hickson is 4 years older than Monroe.

    I don't see how you think Monroe can slide to the 4; when the scouting report clearly states he is too slow to play the 4. Also the report says his outside shot is suspect, shooting only 39% from 3-9 feet and 35% from 10 feet and beyond.

    Pairing Monroe with Drummand would do nothing but clog the paint and ruin the offense.

    Plus you add Leonard to the mix and you have a bench player that actually has a nice shot and young.
     
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    11-13 for Maxiell? Yeah, Detroit doesn't have to worry about Maxiell getting that and hurting their cap space. Am I reading that wrong?
     
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    You actually don't think Maxiell will get 11-13 million? He is having a down year, but is fully capable of having a high PER season.
     
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    I GUARANTEE Maxieel will not get 11-13. Unless you mean that spread out over about 3 years or so. Capable of a high PER season? He's a 30 year old 6'7" PF. He's not really all that good.
     

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