I say he does. He has accomplished so much in his career. And now that he has a ring he will get in.Named All-NBA First-Team in 1998, 2000, All-NBA Second Team in 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999 and All-NBA Third Team in 2001 Selected to the NBA All-Defensive First Team eight consecutive seasons (1994-2001) Named Defensive Player of the Year in 1996 and was the first guard to win the award since Michael Jordan in 1987-88 Selected to the NBA All-Star Team seven straight seasons (1994-98, 2000-01) and was voted as a starter in 1997 and 1998 Member of the gold medal-winning 1996 and 2000 U.S. Men's Olympic TeamsNamed to the NBA All-Rookie Second Team in 1990-91 after averaging 7.2 ppg and 6.4 apgMade it to the finals against the Chicago BullsHeres his career highsoints: 44 @ Minnesota 03/04/01Total Rebounds: 16 @ San Antonio 02/08/00Assists: 18 @ Houston 11/05/02Steals: 8 2 TimesWhat do you guys think?
Top 8 PG with a ring. Definetly. He was a great player and had some very good years and he just accomplished the ultimate goal. I don't know how he can be excluded from the HOF.
I think he will. Honestly if he didnt get in the hof it would have been because of the lack of a championship. He is hof imo
I think he would have made it into the Hall of Fame even if he had not won a ring, but this championship with the Heat just solidified his resume, even though he didn't play a huge role (top three player on the team) in their championship victory.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clangus @ Aug 19 2006, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He was probably in before he got the ring. Now they have his name pencilled in. </div>I never understood that saying... because if somebody's name is pencilled in, then couldn't it be erased? :g:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Aug 19 2006, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I never understood that saying... because if somebody's name is pencilled in, then couldn't it be erased? :g:</div>I think it's a hypothetical pencil with hypothetical graphite in it. So it could hypothetically be erased, I imagine.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I think he would have made it into the Hall of Fame even if he had not won a ring, but this championship with the Heat just solidified his resume</div> Ditto, though I won't say this championship solidified it. Because I think he was a lock to make anyways and he wasn't a major part of the championship imo.
Why even question this? He was a lock without the ring, this guy was one of the best defenders/playmakers in the prime of his career. Even now, he's still a decent point guard to have coming off the bench.Another aspect of his game that a lot of people don't mention is his ability to stay healthy, this guy is meticulous with his workouts and prepartion. Look at his career statistics, the most games he missed in a season is like 5 or 6.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Aug 19 2006, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think he would have made it into the Hall of Fame even if he had not won a ring, but this championship with the Heat just solidified his resume, even though he didn't play a huge role (top three player on the team) in their championship victory.</div>took the words rigth out of my mouth.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Aug 20 2006, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Like malone, only with a ring. Lock. He got 16 boards against SA in 2000? holy crap, rofl.</div>Are you saying that Malone isnt going to get in becaue he didnt win a ring? if so, thats a joke.
Malone is in for sure. Payton is no malone- great but no karl!! Karl will get in despite not having a ring, Payton will get in now that he has one.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Aug 20 2006, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Are you saying that Malone isnt going to get in becaue he didnt win a ring? if so, thats a joke.</div>He was saying that Malone is going to make it, but that Payton is even more unquestionable because he has a ring.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clangus @ Aug 20 2006, 01:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He was probably in before he got the ring. Now they have his name pencilled in. </div>Exactly. He was such an incredible player in his prime. He was one of the best playmakers for his time (and threw the best oops), the best defensive PG I have seen since I was born, a tru leader, a great post-up guard, etc. He did it all. I mean he is a 9-time All-Star, one of the NBA's all-time best defenders at the PG position, he put up the numbers (20+ ppg, 8-9 apg, All-Defensive team), and now he has his ring.Put it this way, if he doesn't get in I will cry and higher a hit-man :winkglasses:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Aug 21 2006, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just hire Gary Payton, he had some pretty wicked anger issues.</div>But that was due to his incredibly competitive spirit. He is one of the most competitive players of his era. But the thing I loved about it is that he would get into the other player's head, then go all-out on defense. He was great. He always had something to say, sure, but he always backed it up.
