What are your beliefs on religion, god?

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  1. crowTrobot

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    if you can know anything at all you can know jehovah's witnesses/hindus (etc) are not right. there is as much evidence that traditional human religious beliefs are false as there is that the earth revolves around the sun.
     
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    I know there are many straight edge people here regarding drugs. But I see psychedelics much differently than the common drug to get you high. Until people experience them; they won't be able to see its true power. You can dive into the deepest parts of your own mind and see wonderous or terrifying things. The best part is the brutal honesty it puts before you. There is no hiding yourself when taking them.
     
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    Well in the Christian faith Jesus said "the man without sin cast the first stone". There isn't a man on this planet that can cast judgement on anyone. Also; true Christianity believes that even the most wretched can come into the kingdom of heaven.

    So as a Christian; I respect that you don't see faith like I do. What's right is what's right for you. I would only ask the same in return. I think it's responsible for everyone in any belief study as much as they can and truly seek truth.

    Maybe the scientists got it all right or maybe the Christians. Who knows maybe the Buddhists are right. Whatever the case; I think it's amazing that so many people have so many different ideas. That's what makes us so special!
     
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    Yeah, nobody should worry about people in power that have clearly stated that we need to die. That they need to insure that the following generations need to be trained to maintain that hated toward us. Instead, we should just ignore that shit, and send them gifts of jets and tanks. That will surely make things better between us.

    I'm happy for you if that works for you. It doesn't work for me.

    Go Blazers
     
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    Proof?
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    nope, I'm not talking about synsethesia. I was talking about your "if the rules were broken, the universe would break."
     
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    Scientific experiments are set up to prove hypotheses, not disprove them. It is on the religious sector to prove God exists.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Not exactly true, but pretty close. Sometimes they disprove their hypothesis and publish that.
     
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    There are two possible hypotheses regarding the existence of God that someone may wish to test (although there are no tests for proving either)
    1) God exists
    2) God does not exist

    I understand that you may consider that #2 is actually the null hypothesis, and technically you are correct, but in common thinking on the subject most people would consider either a valid hypothesis.
     
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    Actually you are mistaken. In the general testing protocol; scientific theory is to try and disprove. If there is something that can be 100% proven without change; then it becomes a scientific fact "Usually associated with a mathematical equation that could endlessly repeat without change or error"
     
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    false. the intent of experiments can be either. frequently it is both - set up to provide evidence for one hypothesis and against another competing one.


    how without using science? philosophy alone won't do it. personal revelation is demonstratably unreliable. what other tool do they have?
     
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    Yeah that thinking is out there; but if you really think about it; it makes a lot of sense. Everything in this Universe is pretty "A Matter of Fact". There really isn't "gray area" in reality. It could be things we haven't discovered that makes a gray area; but the existence of the Universe, time and space are all part of the program.

    Let's say a man was able to travel back in time. Let's assume that that same person comes in contact with his previous self. They are both part of the same "energy". What if the same energy and mass from past and future come in contact? How would that even work?
     
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    Devil's advocate position.

    I see a tree. God made the tree. Therefore there is a god.

    Plus he sends me PMs.
     
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    I agree. I think that (Proving or disproving) time may come sooner than later.
     
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    If god is giving you PMS you must of done something to piss him off.
     
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    there are no tests for proving anything at all in the sense you mean here. science deals in probabilities, not absolutes. to repeat last night's example, there are no tests to 'prove' god didn't create an old-looking but undetectably young earth. but there are plenty of tests that indicate that's improbable, just as there are plenty of tests that indicate the existence of Yahweh, Ra, Zeus, Thor (etc.) is improbable.

    there are no tests for "god" only if you leave the definition of god so vague as there's nothing specific even available to test.
     
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    "You know why the rain dance always worked? Because they danced until the rains came."
     
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    I think this is a solid video as an argument for the existence of God

    [video=youtube;Sr5lY0TcdAw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr5lY0TcdAw&list=FLpvzKMsezPkDQ22A_UdZFOg[/video]
     
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    some world class KCA bullshit there. that guy must be a real WLC fanboy.
     
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