What are your beliefs on religion, god?

I am the son of a pastor. That said, I was the biggest basher of Christ there was. Total hedonist. Wanted to have NOTHING to do with my father's god, christ, and all that bunk. Just ask BLAZER PROPHET. He knew me at the time. That is, until I had a Christ, total God moment, experience in the kitchen of my home back in February of 1989. At that singular moment, the tables completely turned for me. My parents' (and many others') prayers were answered. I found Christ! Well, to be honest, perhaps He found me. Nobody knocked at my door, this wasn't one of those "church" "Come to Jeee-sus!!" moments. It happened in the quiet of my home, alone.

At any rate, I've never turned back, nor have ever regretted that decision. I don't have to "prove" it to anyone. It is what is is, and always will be. And, I'm extremely thankful for that!

 

that's great for you, but it did seem like you were interested in providing evidence that your relationship with Christ is objectively real. if not no problem.

 

My "relationship" with Christ is entirely subjective because, well, it's my own.

 

sorry, i meant evidence the object of your relationship is real not the relationship itself

 

No you are totally missing the concept. You are wanting some grey beard man to present himself as God. That's for your enlightenment. Your love for your mother is invisible. Your relationship with your mother is based on what she feels and what you feel. Can anyone else truly understand your love for your mother? No it's what you feel inside when you think about her. It's the things you choose to do for her for the sake of love.

If I was to tell you that you don't love your mother; then demand physical proof that you actually love her. Then when you try and explain; they say "nope that is a delusion! That is not proof you love your mother!"

 

nobody is gonna touch the adam and eve thing? was it just a nice story?

 

Adam and Eve? What do you think about it?

 

that the bible version seems a little strange

at least as far as i know, maybe i missed something? were there others?

 

No it's the same story. Yeah it seems a little strange. But when I have confidence there is God; then why couldn't it happen? I mean if you believe that God created the universe; then he has the ability to make a man and woman.

We see modern science able to clone animals. It doesn't seem impossible.

 

was more thinking the whole incest part, is that explained away somehow?

seems like the gene pool would be immediately fucked, and then just get worse and worse

maybe thats whats wrong with the world today...

 

Could be. I tend to look at it with more "out of the box" thinking. It could be possible that God; being all powerful; tweaked things so the gene pool wouldn't be fucked up. I tend to see god as the ultimate scientist. Having unmeasurable knowledge. What the most brilliant mind in this planet; is nothing in comparison.

 

one of us is anyway

 

Yes you are, but it's okay.

I mean looking at the scientific debate you had with trip tango; it seems you are a bit off on a lot of things

 

When in doubt, one of the passages I defer to is Isaiah 55:8-9

 

meh, seems like a major cop out

but i guess you can explain anything at all away with "god tweaked it"

 

What if I told you 120 years ago that man could build a machine that can take 120 people and fly them across the Atlantic in less than a day? How do you think those people would react to that madness?

They would probably say you are crazy. Then when you try and explain it; they say your mad and it's impossible.

 

To me, it boils down to individual choice. Either, everything happened/exists just the way God prescribed it...and you believe it in its entirety...or....it's all a bunch of hooey.

Who's to say? Well, as I mentioned up there a ways ^, to each their own. Objectivity is objectivity, subjectivity is subjectivity, faith is faith, and poppycock is poppycock. Thus, red is gray and yellow, white, but we decide which is right, and which is an illusion...............

 

senior citizens wish they were young

 

your invisibility of love for your mother thing doesn't relate to what i was talking about at all.

i wasn't questioning how someone would know feelings others have for an invisible entity are real. i asked how anyone would know if the entity itself is real, given that humans are demonstratably prone to developing strong emotional ties to things that don't actually exist.