Would you trade Matthews and Hickson for Kobe?

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Hickson/Matthews for Kobe?

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  2. No

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I vote no, and for reasons completely unrelated to basketball.

    As a Minnesota Vikings fan, the most joyless year of my fandom was when Brett Favre quarterbacked my team to a 12-4 record and to the NFC championship game. Yes, I want my team to succeed, but if I don't like the players, then it's worthless to me.
     
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    I vote no. Ignoring personal issues and looking at it strictly from a basketball standpoint, Kobe's said that he only intends to play for a couple of years. If the Blazers were in a position where they just needed one piece to truly contend for a title, maybe you rent Kobe to make that push. As it is, to make salaries match, it would take more players than the Blazers could stand to part with and Kobe wouldn't be enough to put the team in a contending mode.
     
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  3. BigGameDamian

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    Kobe is still the closest player to Jordan in today's game.
     
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    That's not true. LJ is the closest thing to Jordan. Kobe is a wannabe Jordan. Kobe has a career per of 24.5; while Jordan has a career per of 29.5. LJ has a career per very close of 27.2.
     
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  5. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Kobe is the closest in terms of elite shooting guard to Jordan. But yeah, in terms of utterly dominant players I've watched since the mid-90's, I'd put the list at Jordan, Shaq and then LeBron.

    Kobe is somewhere in the next tier with Hakeem, Duncan, Malone....
     
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    Pretty absurd that most of you wouldn't trade two fringe starters for a future HOF player and top 10 player in the league. Ok maybe hes only top 12-13 if you're a PER nuthugger, but even so why wouldn't you trade two run of the mill players for a top 15 player?

    Yeah, he probably wouldn't be very happy playing in Portland, and there's concern with how he'd fit with Dame/LMA. But it instantly ups your franchise's profile exponentially. You add a marketing machine and superstar, a guy everyone in the league respects, and to boot you've even got a fucking money core of Damian, Kobe, Batum, and Aldridge. You could draw some vets on the cheap who are ring-chasing. FAs will want to play for Portland. The whole image of the team would change, not to mention if would be a major upgrade in talent.
     
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    Kobe will retire a Faker, it's absurd to think otherwise.
     
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    I don't know about absurd

    Who was the last HOFer inducted that only played for one team? Stockton, maybe? Is Reggie Miller in the HOF yet? I mean he certainly could retire a L*ker, and probably will, but I'm not sure it would be absurd if he didn't
     
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  9. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    I don't care if he's got ten years of MVP-quality play left in him. He's a scumbag, and I don't want him playing for my team. I wouldn't trade Darius Miles for K*be Bryant, and if you know me and my opinion of Miles from that period, you'll know just how reprehensible a human being I find Bryant.
     
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  10. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Anymore it seems like older stars, if they have anything left in the tank, usually go on to chase rings on cheap contracts with contenders. Payton, Karl Malone, Ray Allen, Garnett, Shaq....I think playing your whole career on one team has gone the way of saving yourself for marriage. Sure, it sounds noble and all, but in the end you want to score some trophies a lot more than you want to be known as That Person.
     
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    No it isn't.
     
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    I don't think so LeBron is more like Magic just not as good. I also don't like how LBJ went to Miami to be with Wade to win a championship and now you hear rumors about LBJ going back to Cleavland now that he's won a Championship maybe two if he gets on this year. Just because of that I would never put LBJ in the same line as Jordan till he proves he can do it with his own team like Jordan and Kobe have done. Another thing is players like Kobe and Jordan live for the big moment I'm not so sure you can say the same about James. Talent wise maybe I just don't think James has the same kind of mind set as players like Jordan and Kobe and that's and that's what separates them.
     
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    Miami is his team now. Ask any fan or the coaching staff.
     
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    The Heat became his team the second he made the decision.
     
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    Yep. I don't why people think this team is wade or bosh's?
     
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    I think it might be because Wade won a championship in Miami before LeBron got there. But if you paid attention it was obvious he took over right away.
     
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    so why couldn't LBJ wait till Wade went to Cleavland?
     
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    Serious question: Did you have too many drinks and hit your head on the floor? :lol:
     
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    While I assume a media whore like KB wouldn't want to play in Portland anymore then I'd like to see him in red and black, PDX's rebounding would improve after what I'd then turn around and trade him for. Wes and JJ are a small price to pay for someone who can generate so much $... the Big Markets would be lining up

    STOMP
     
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  20. KingSpeed

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    He's 34.
    Kobe was drafted in 96
     
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