So here is a revamped "Off-season" moves by Magnifier

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Okay, so let's just assume the cap is 60 million this summer and Portland doesn't have their first rounder (I truly believe that we will either just barely make or miss the playoffs). From reading the other threads, I assume we have around 16 million if we renounce everyone. Those renounced players include: E Will, Hickson, Maynor, Babbitt, Smith, Jeffries?

    So if we keep E Will (1.2 mil) + retain Hickson (7 mil) + pick up QO for Maynor (5 mil); that leaves us with about 2.8 mil in cap space.

    I think Maynor will accept a 3 mil per contract from Portland; which would give us another 2 million free (4.8 million)

    I also think a three-team deal between PDX, Atlanta and Denver works:
    PDX sends: Hickson (7.5 million) sign and trade + Freeland (3.5 mil) + 2nd rounder
    PDX receives: McGee

    Denver sends: McGee
    Denver receives: Freeland, PDX and Atlanta's 2nd rounder + 8 mil TE

    Atlanta sends: 11 mil TE + 2nd rounder
    Atlanta receives: Hickson

    This deal would give us the shot blocker we desperately need.

    With the 4.8 million left; I would use it to grab Korver.

    New starting line-up:
    PG: Lillard, SG: Matthews, SF: Batum, PF: Aldridge, Center: McGee

    Back-ups:
    PG: Maynor, SG: Korver, E Will and barton, SF: Claver and Barton, PF: Leonard and Claver, Center: Leonard.
     
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  2. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

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    Atlanta has cap space. You ask them to give up a second for no reason here.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    They are getting hickson. Don't you think that's worth a 2nd rounder?

    The second rounders are for Denver to accept the McGee deal.
     
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    they can sign him outright. We have bird rights, but not matching rights. If they want him, they can get him for nothing but the contract offer.

    BTW, I think Atlanta is one of the very few real options Hickson has this summer. Mostly because they only have like six contracts that extend into this offseason. If they don't nail free agency, they could be very bad next year.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    True, but it maybe a "loyalty issue" for Portland being so fucking swell and giving Hickson a chance? :D Just work with me here!

    Okay maybe Denver sends the second rounder to Atlanta? :D
     
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    I would almost bet Portland would not go above the MLE to re-sign Hickson, so his options are really endless because I don't think he'll get a lot more than that
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    The reason why I used Atlanta and Denver is because I think Denver wants to get rid of McGee's contract, Atlanta may need a PF after they could possibly lose Smooth. I don't think Atlanta would be fine with giving Denver a TE if they planned on getting Hickson. Denver would be fine giving up a 2nd rounder for a very large cap dump, since they are already stacked with young talent.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I like this scenario by PtldPlatypus

    Dalembert + Jerm could be a 6 million option.
     
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    I like the idea of leveraging Hickson into something worthwhile, and I definitely like McGee. Truth is that Freeland is garbage, though--the second rounder is worth more. In fact, it's a better deal for the other team if he's left off. Sadly, Portland is pretty devoid of other assets to sweeten the deal. Except for Leonard, and I kind of hate giving up on him so early when he clearly has some tools.

    Realistically, I think Hickson walks for nothing, just like Felton and Crawford did.
     
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    There's just no need to complicate it. McGee for second rounders works just fine, if they want to dump him.

    As for other center options, am curious if okc would pay to dump Perkins, to move his , and what they'd give
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Well if Hickson walks for nothing; then PDX can just give a 2nd rounder for McGee and a 11 mil TE.
     
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    Perkins' play has really fell off a cliff the last two years. He was never a big scorer but his rebound numbers are down and he shoots bad from the line. I would stay away unless his contract was really cheap (and I pretty sure it isn't - in fact it is crazy high for his production)

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/perkike01.html
     
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    It's my opinion that the Thunder have made a couple of bad moves in the last couple of years. I think they should have targeted a different Center than Perkins. Although he's reasonably paid, he is slowing down fast (as others have said). I also think they made the wrong choice about which guard to keep. I think they should have traded Westbrook and kept Harden. I believe that the team of __? at PG, Harden at SG, Durant at SF, Ibaka at PF and __? at C would be a better long term team. I think trading Westbrook and Jeff Green would have allowed them to get a pass first PG and a utility, mobile big in return. They're doing alright, but they won't win a title with this current lineup.
     
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    Couple scenarios I see as possible but probably unlikely:

    1- We get our pick and set up a delayed trade with Phoenix at the draft (like we did with Bayless), where we draft the player they want at 11/12 and then after the cap is set in July and contracts expire both sides have room to maneuver and execute the trade. Gortat supposedly wants out of Phoenix bad, so offer them whatever player is available at 11/12 + Freeland + second rounders for Gortat + Dudley. Gives them an instant 7-8 million in extra cap room plus picks/prospects. We then resign Maynor and we've got a solid starting 5 with Gortat, and a decent looking bench with Maynor/Dudley/Claver/Leonard.

    2- I still like Aldridge for Monroe + Singler. Detroit will have the room this offseason to absorb all of Aldridges contract, so we could make the swap and maybe throw in Freeland to give us even more cap room. Then look to sign Millsap starting at about 10mil for a solid starting 5, and we'd still have maybe 15 or so in cap room to play with. Maybe resign Maynor and Kevin Martin for a duo backup playmaker and serious firepower off the bench, or Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry for a combo guard and more depth up front...
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I like scenario #1 the best. Gortat is a long term player; which may put Leonard on the chopping block. Maybe not... But Gortat and Aldridge are around the same age and I think they would really compliment each other well. Gortat would be a huge success if Portland could manage to pry him away from Phoenix. That would be an A+++ off-season with that deal alone.
     
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    please mags for the love of jeebus stop with this Mcgee love! Look how horrible he was vs us when we played Denver last time. The guy is CLUELESS on the bball court, he makes awesome plays now and then but he has a lower BBIQ then Outlaw had. I'd much rather start Leonard then have to pay McGee 10m a season.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Sorry but I still think he is a great addition. I know many disagree, but he is still arguably the best shot blocker in the game right now. Also, he's stupid, but still managing a 20 per in 15 minutes. He's gonna be great man!
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Eilliott Williams is wasted cap space.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Look at McGee's numbers and understand why I am goo goo over him. He is only averaging 18.7 minutes per game. High FG% is 57%, scores 9.8 points, 2 blocks and 4.8 boards. His per 36 is insane!

    PER 36: 18.8 PPG, 9.2 boards, 3.8 blocks

    If we could get 12, 10, 3 a game; then it's completely worth a 10 mil per year contract.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I'm fine with him not being on the team. Just tossing the option out there
     

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