So is a Maynor a keeper if he plays well the rest of the season?

haha

Rooting for him long term. I also think Minnesota and Charlotte had much more to do with us winning the last two games than Meyers

I would love nothing more than for him to sit in a gym the entire off season and learn post offense and defense. With his other skill set, he could be good. Right now though, he seems to like the high post only. Given that he was a 6'5" guard in high school, makes me think he will always prefer the high post. Also leads me to believe he will never be a very good low post defender or help defender.

Randy Bodek loved his game, hated his brain. We will see

 

How did Leonard get mixed in with this thread?

 

Boob brought him up on page 2 after someone *cough Mags cough* brought up Hickson and Pekovic

 

Touché. But... I wasn't the one that originally brought him up. I was replying to someone's post! So there!!!!!!

 

I definitely like Maynor. He is a High IQ Point that seems to make his teammates better. He is owed the 3.2-3.3 million minimum. Iam just worried that the other teams that were interested in him when we snagged him from the Thunder will over bid him. Making him 2 expensive.

 

And instantly erase 3+ million from or cap space

 

Worth it

 

which probably means we don't sign an RFA this offseason with the bulk of our cap space.

 

Let this be a lesson to those who swear by PER and other stats that try to define a player's worth by a single number:

Nolan Smith:
PER = 6.9
TS% = .436
TOV = 19.9
ORtg = 85
DRTg = 111
WS/48 = -0.069

Ronnie Price:
PER = 6.8
TS% = .402
TOV = 20.7
ORtg = 88
DRTg = 108
WS/48 = -0.010

Eric Maynor:
PER = 6.7
TS% = .396
TOV = 22.6
ORtg = 90
DRTg = 114
WS/48 = -0.039

I know the sample size for Maynor is small (games), but these numbers are all very close. Nolan and Price actually have higher PERs, shoot better and turn the ball over less than Maynor. Maynor has a higher ORTg, but that's offset by a comparably higher DRTg. All three have negative WS/48.

So, what makes Maynor a potential keeper?

Nolan Smith
AST% = 19.5

Ronnie Price
AST% = 21.1

Eric Maynor
AST% = 38.7

Maynor knows how to run an offense and create for his teammates. The second unit plays so much better now, after just 4 games, than it ever did with Price or Nolan running the point. And, as others have mentioned, Maynor's ability to run an offense frees Damian up to play off the ball - and be effective doing so.

I expect Maynor's PER and other stats to improve with more PT, but his AST% and the positive impact he has on the second unit is reason enough to consider him a potential "keeper".

BNM

 

Great post, BNM. Maynor may be as inefficient as Nolan and Ronnie, but he's twice the passer; observation and stats bear this out.

 

I thought it was cool that this one particular stat, AST%, confirms EXACTLY what we've seen with our own eyes. Many posters have commented on how much better the second unit is playing with Maynor compared to Price or Nolan, and his AST% explains why. He runs the offense well, creates for his teammates and does a great job finding the open man.

I think this makes him a very desirable back-up PG. He doesn't have the scoring ability to be a starter, but the flow and ball movement is great for getting the bench guys involved by getting them easy baskets. I know it's a long season and guys like Leonard, Freeland and Claver are learning as they go, but I can't help but wonder how much further along they'd be if we'd had Maynor on opening night.

BNM

 

And with assists necessarily having to come from made baskets, a 2x increase in AST% means (roughly, for similar minutes played, etc.) a 2x increase in scoring while the backup PG is in the game. That's what we're seeing.

 

Fuck off with this passive aggressive "um no" shit. I FUCKING HATE THIS. So fucking rude.

Also, thanks for an otherwise good lesson.

Also also, Maynor's PER now stands at 10.2 after that Memphis game.

 

I like turtles!

 

He has a point. Maynor had 12 assist the Timberwolves game. Thats at least 22 points assisted. On top of whatever points he scores. He could score 0, that 22 points assisted coming from a backup PG is pretty darn good in my book. Theres no arguing our bench is like night and day when Em got here.

 

Where I had it wrong is that it just means more baskets are assisted, not necessarily that there's more baskets (there could have been a lot of one-on-one points before that are now assisted, meaning the upgrade in points isn't 1:1 with AST%) - totally legit mental misfire on my part. Plus, Maynor is playing about 1/3 to 1/2 of his time with starters and Lillard while subbing for Matthews.

Observationally, however, our offense is running much better with Maynor than with either previous backup PG.

 

Maynor is driving his price up. How much will he get this summer? The guy could probably starting for 1/3 of the teams in the league.