I think porkchop thinks your hatred is for more than the teams, but the city and beyond. That's where tlong's comment comes from, probably. For the record, I agree with tlong - I do love Seattle. It's a great place to visit for a long weekend. And I've gone and caught ballgames up there on warm sunny days and cold fall Sundays. I have a great time up there. That being said, SF is such a world-class city (not that Seattle isn't, but it's not on SF's level). In my line of business, we deal with a lot of Europeans, and whenever they are on the West Coast, they always want to go to SF and the Bay Area. That's the one place they want to go. September/October in SF is magical. Especially the last couple of years with the Giants being so competetive.
It's the snooty attitude. The "we're better than you" way of thinking. Calling us their little brother, or saying we're a smaller Seattle is just exactly the kind of reason why I don't like the people up there. The assumption that we should follow their teams because they're closer is equally annoying. Here are all our crappy teams, and you get nothing else.
So... because you don't like the Sonics or the Huskies all Seattle teams should be hated?? That's racist. I actually do get your thoughts on the matter, but I don't think it is that crazy to embrace certain teams of a city and have disdain for others. I had to root for Rick Mirer. So.. yeah...
I'm not saying you should follow Seattle teams. You were the one who said that you could never understand why anyone would like any team from Seattle.
I grew up hating Seattle football because of UW. I didn't even pay attention to Seattle until they were in the NFC and became decent/relevant. So for me, hatred for Seattle football is just something that is properly ingrained in my being.
You not big into FB - that explains it. Research/surveys have proven that the Seahawks are the most popular team in Portland. I've seen the results, by legit research/marketing firms.
As a Beavers fan I did not have the same amount of disdain. So there may be the rub. In fact, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Therefore, Seattle football's just fine by me.
I'd like to see this research. Not saying it doesn't exist. But I'd be shocked. Unless it's like 18% Seattle. Then the remaining 82% scattered among all of the other teams.
No one is calling you little brother. Or more importantly, no one is calling Portland Seattle's little brother. It's the way of thinking by some (just some) that is little brotherish. When I lived in Seattle I never heard any hate for Portland. There was some UO hate (I was at UW), but even then it was nothing like what I hear going the other way. It seems like anytime Seattle is brought up in conversations (both here and just in general in Portland), there is always a vocal minority trying to one up Seattle. Have you been to Vivace? Oh, Stumptown is better! The winters in Portland suck! But it's so much worse in Seattle! (I have heard this numerous times). Like I said, I personally like Portland more, but I can see that in some (you may or may not actually fit, but your statements seems to lump you in) just can't accept any favorable mention of Seattle without interjecting something about Portland being better. About your "Seattle fans" generalization, can a WSU fan root for the Seahawks/M's/Sounders? They are part of the Seattle fan base that WSU fans must hate since it includes those hated Huskies.
See, I like UO and OSU. They're part of my state. But I never went to either school (at least not to study). So it's easy for me to like both.
Yeah, I didn't even argue on that point. I think it was a slip on his part to not distinguish as the most popular NFL team. Because there's no way the Seahawks are more popular in Portland than the Blazers.
All I originally posted was that I don't understand how someone from Portland could support a team from Seattle. You are the one who first mentioned the "little brother syndrome". This has nothing to do with one-upping. The two cities have a long and storied rivalry (they were literally founded in the same year), not just economically and politically, but with the Blazers and Sonics, as well as the Ducks and Huskies. There is some bad blood there. I couldn't care less about the city. I do not like the fans. I don't like Seahawks fans, I don't like Huskies fans.... I probably wouldn't like Mariners fans either, but I don't think there are any. And to answer your other question, WSU is in Washington. Portland is in Oregon. They are free to support whomever they like, but I think the fact that we are in two separate states changes things a little, don't you?
