http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...e-cant-get-any-respect-and-how-to-change-that <-- Yes it's bleacher report; but it's a good article. I didn't know that there hasn't been a current player to average +20 points and +8 rebounds a game. That would be awesome if Aldridge can finish this season off strong and be the only one. BTW... You should watch his highlight video. He's got some nice post moves! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAjtZOafwHQ&feature=player_embedded [video=youtube;oAjtZOafwHQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAjtZOafwHQ&feature=player_embedded[/video]
I'm intrigued on where they got "excellent perimeter shooting" from. I don't think there's any measure you can point to to say he's an "excellent perimeter shooter." In fact, I think that that's the one part of his game that's detracting from his overall greatness, efficiency and therefore wins. The "much-improved low post defense" I'm not sure about--was there an article recently that used something to say that he was an elite defender? I don't scour threads as much as I used to. I don't know if the comparison to Sheed is great or not, b/c while Sheed was a similar rebounder (slightly worse ORB%, slightly better DRB%, almost equal overall), Sheed shot many of his jumpers from behind the 3pt line, so while his FG% was the same, his EFG% and TS% were higher. Sheed's highest usage rates are 5% below LMA's. DRtg probably has a lot to do with the team, but Sheed destroys him there. LMA, however, has a higher PER by roughly 3.0 a year. Win Shares are about equal. And for KingSpeed and PapaG: Sheed's made the playoffs every year of his career except his rookie year with the Bullets.
Well taking a look at other bigs and their perimeter shooting; he is far superior. Let's use "love for example... He is considered a deadly shooter; yet Aldridge trumps him in everything but the 3 point shot http://stats.nba.com/playerVsPlayer.html?PlayerID=200746&VsPlayerID=201567 Then we can look at Chris Bosh; who is another player that is known for good perimeter shooting. And it's pretty certain you can argue that most the attention is off of him because teams are more focused on Wade and LeBron; which his him a buffer. http://stats.nba.com/teamVsPlayer.html?TeamID=1610612748&VsPlayerID=200746 But even with the buffer and him being more wide open than Aldridge; he still trumps Bosh from the perimeter. Now Duncan would be the one player I think makes shots with efficiency from 5-10 feet. He is the one player I think would be considered playing better ball at PF than Aldridge and the stats back that statement. He is the only player that has a better and more efficient perimeter game than Aldridge. http://stats.nba.com/playerVsPlayer.html?PlayerID=200746&VsPlayerID=1495 Of course he shoots much less than Aldridge; I think Duncan's bank shot is a thing of beauty. He is the only player I think that is, by far, the better Big.
Trust me....... opposing coaches and players respect THE FUCK OUT OF HIM! Double team him whenever they can.
Link Um, Bosh shoots 50% on his perimeter jumpers (jump shots 9-22 feet). LMA is at 42%. Ibaka, Gasol at 49%. Nicholson, Jason Smith at 48%. Kaman, Garnett, Arthur at 46%. Dudley, Landry, West at 45%. Speights, Bass, Horford, Nowitzki, Brand @43%. Shoots as well as LMA: Scola, Jason Thompson, David Lee. Duncan slightly below at 41.6, but on half as many shots. Kevin Love only shoots 35% from 9-22 feet. Of course, he shoots more 3's (at a pretty-damn-efficient 37%) than jumpers 9-22 feet (he does it 500x less a season than LMA). If LMA took any of his 12 long jumpers from behind the 3pt line, he'd only have to shoot 29% on them to do better than what his "elite" perimeter shooting is doing for the team now.
Your link for Bosh is all of MIA, not just Bosh. Bosh shoots 45.5% on jumpers, Aldridge shoots 41.5%. eFG% for both is 47.0% and 41.6% respectively. http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01/shooting/2013/ http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01/shooting/2013/ And you're using Love's season stats from this year, when he's been playing with a messed up hand all year. Last year he shot 34.8% on jumpers, but with an eFG% of 43.0 it was still higher than LMA. BWA has it right, with an eFG% of 41.6 on his jumpers, and not a single other shot type with a eFG% below 52.4% his heavy heavy reliance on a highly inefficient perimeter game is a detracting factor.
It's not LMA's fault, it's his limit. Like Griffin, Bosh, and Love he's capable of putting up All Star numbers as the number 1 on teams that aren't going to get very far, not quite as good as those 3 but still All Star numbers, but if he's going to get anywhere like Griffin and Bosh have it will come with him sacrificing his numbers and being a 2 or a 3 on a team with serious depth.
:facepalm: Are you arguing with the links I provided? Your reference is skewed. The nba stat site is better because it shows the shots and distance. Guess you missed the point where I said that Bosh's jump shots are buffered because of all the attention LeBron and wade get. In fact, your link proves that the majority of those shots are assisted (82%); whereas Aldridge is creating those jump shots (64%). Basically, Aldridge being the 1st or 2nd focus on the defensive end; yet still shooting more efficiently. Now you bring up all players that are third or 4th options on offense, basically being the spot up shooter after the main focal points draw the defense to them. That is a much easier shot. With Aldridge, it's far different. He is the focal point and usually doubled. Those shots are usually always contested and he still manages to drain 42% of them.
Your link is showing that Aldridge shots a better % than Bosh. The eFG% is an advanced stat that doesn't tell the entire story. I don't know how many times I have to say this over and over and over again. Bosh is the third option and isn't even close to getting the attention Aldridge receives. Almost all of Aldridge shots are coming when he is either doubled or heavily contested. Bosh gets to watch LeBron and Wade demand all the attention and be the spot up shooter for their squad. Look when Aldridge was the spot up shooter when Roy was Batman. He blows them out of the water. As for Love. Last season Love to Last Season Aldridge; Aldridge still beat him on everything but the three point shot. Who wants a three point shooting PF anyway? I thought that was a huge complaint with Sheed for so many years? Aldridge 2011-12 42.4% - eFG% 42.5% - Assisted 52% (Harder attempts) Kevin Love 2011-12 34.8% - eFG% 43% - Assisted 71% (easier attempts)
I want to know what happened to Blake Griffin after his rookie season. He went from averaging 22 and 12 to 20 and 10 to currently 18 and 8. I would have thought the addition of Chris Paul would make him better.... not worse.
I wonder if the combo of Chris Paul and DeAndre Jordan improving has something to do with it. But all that aside he seems super overrated.
Yes, I'm arguing with your links. Your Bosh link doesn't even show Bosh, it shows Miami as a whole and only shows how LMA did against them. How are you saying my reference is "skewed"? The shots database in basketball-reference shows every type and distance for every shot taken in the last 15 years. We're talking about perimeter shooting, which is by most accounts defined as outside 9 feet and inside the 3pt line. By no account is LMA (as the author insinuated) an "elite" perimeter shooter. It doesn't matter if he's the first or fifth option, double-teamed or not. When he lets a shot fly, it goes in 42% of the time. That's less than all of those guys posted above, and he shoots almost double as many (if not more) than any other player in the league. I was going to bring up the assist thing, but for a different reason. By your stat, he's not getting 1/3 of his shots off of the pick and pop or any other pass. He's getting them from getting the ball, making a move, and then deciding to take a 42% efficient shot. That's not good by any stretch, any definition, any measure of anything basketball-related. And no, if he's doubled there no way he should be taking them. If he's the "focal point" of the defense, he shouldn't be shooting them. By definition there's someone else who's NOT the focal point and/or wide open, and wherever they are on the court and whatever percentage they're shooting it's more efficient than LMA taking a 9-22 foot jumper. That's all there is to it. I can't believe that this is even a discussion. You can debate LMA being a Top 3 PF, or being able to make another leap, or whether he can be a Batman or Robin, or whether it's better for him to play more D and let other focus on O. You can debate whether or not him shooting from 9-22 feet "spaces the floor" or makes the offense "flow better". What ISN'T debatable is the fact that LMA shoots more of the least-efficient shot in basketball than any other player, and he isn't even an average efficiency (even for a big man) while doing it. I'd be very interested to see anything that shows he's even "above average" at perimeter shooting, much less "excellent", as the OP stated.
I think he is an over-rated player. He reminds me a lot of Larry Johnson, when he was all hyped his first few seasons. The moment he has an injury and loses some of that athleticism, he will be mediocre
Okay tell me... What shot is harder? Contested or wide-open? Oh here you go. Don't know why it showed the entire team. http://stats.nba.com/playerVsPlayer.html?PlayerID=200746&VsPlayerID=2547 Oh and do you think Stephen Curry is a good jump shooter? Your link has him only 0.02% better than Aldridge. How about Jrue Holiday; which is considered a good perimeter scorer is less than Aldridge. How about Carmelo Anthony? Aldridge is better! LMAO! You provided a link to give yourself the proof you need.
The team as whole has gotten a lot better (most notably the bench) and they are really deep. A lot more people to contend with on shot attempts. Also his minutes per game have gone from 38 to 36 to 32.5. His per 36 scoring stats are basically identical every year. His rebounds have gone down slightly each year however. Odom has been horrible but the one thing he has done is rebound at a high rate. Some of it is teams figuring him out though I believe. But not much as people think.
