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  1. ripmycity

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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    No, we need a Good Center or SF/PF coming off the bench to be legit playoff team
     
    ripmycity, Mar 21, 2013
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  2. magnifier661

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    I don't think that's the question. I think he's asking if our big three good enough to lead a team to a championship.

    Basically or interpreted: "is this big three good enough to build around to contend?"
     
    magnifier661, Mar 21, 2013
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  3. illmatic99

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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    The question should be if they can even get us into the playoffs first. Baby steps
     
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  4. magnifier661

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    I agree
     
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  5. BigGameDamian

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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    But I'm talking about our long term goal not the short term goal. To my understanding the Blazers are building this team to win a championship and they are building around Lillard, Batum and Aldridge as our big core main guys.That is unless Paul decides to go money happy and decides to have 4 max players again and many 8-9 mil players.
     
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  6. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    I think so if we have much better players complimenting them.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    What about Tiago Splitter? He was talked about on the Talkin' Ball show, after the Bulls game and he is free agent after this season. He's a backup to Duncan. Splitter is having a good year so far. Would you be comfortable of letting J.J Hickson go for this guy?
    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3233/tiago-splitter
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Is this a joke?

    This team is light years behind the Drexler and Wallace eras. And the Blazers are going to have to be even better than that if they want to win a title, because the refs are going to fuck em.
     
    Sinobas, Mar 21, 2013
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    No.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Lillard and Aldridge are a solid beginning, but we need a third guy. Batum is really just a role player. He's the kind of guy you want on your team, but I don't think he's going to be the #3 man. He's not the Ray Allen that we need. We need another scorer who can go off for 20+ a night. Batum and Matthews are too streaky to be that guy.

    Maybe Mayo. I think Mayo would actually be a really good third option. Or a Tyreke Evans. We need another scorer. On nights when Lillard is off, it is very hard for us to get a win right now. On nights when Lillard and Aldridge are on, but the rest of the team is off, we also lose. We need a third guy.
     
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  12. Natebishop3

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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    This is why I like Mayo:

    25 years old
    16.7 ppg, 4.4 assists, 3.6 boards
    46% FG, 41% from three.
    PER 15.4

    There was a time when I would have liked Kevin Martin, but the dude is 30 and he can't stay healthy. He's not worth it.

    Evans is a really good prospect, but he's restricted and he's not a very good outside shooter. He's shooting 35% from three. He does have a per of 18.5, which is quite a bit better than Mayo.
     
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  13. PtldPlatypus

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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Comparing their stats, Mayo's only advantage seems to be as an outside shooter; Evans brings more defense and rebounding, is less turnover prone, and gets to the line far more often. Between the two, I'd definitely rather have Evans.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Mar 22, 2013
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  14. Natebishop3

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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Evans is an RFA though. You run a risk of missing out on another target while you spend time trying to get Evans.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Even though I kinda like Evans I feel like Mayo is the smarter player and for that reason is a better fit for our team. What I mean is I get the feeling that Evans might be a bit more of an unconscious chucker. Or in other words if Evans was taking up too many of the shots and having a bad night Im not sure he would be as willing to stop shooting like he should anyway. Mayo on the other hand seems like he would recognize that better.
     
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  16. PtldPlatypus

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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Reviewing the stats, Mayo seems to be slightly more of a chucker, actually. Mayo has had 14 games this year in which he shot below 35%; in 9 of those he took more than 10 shots. Evans has had 12 games in which he shot below 35%, with just 6 over 10 shots, and 2 with under 5 (Mayo has 0). Mayo's also much more likely to chuck from 3, with 8 games this year at 1-5 from 3 or worse, whereas Evans only has one such game.

    I agree that Evans being restricted makes him a tougher pickup; I was just saying that I think he's a better fit for us than Mayo is. I also think, however, that Mayo will command more this summer. If it comes about that we want to pay Evans more than Sacramento does, I wonder if Petrie would be willing to accommodate a S&T deal for him. :dunno:
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Maybe its because Mayo lit us up earlier in the year but he just seems more like that instant offense that we need at times. Or maybe what I am saying is the Mayo "on fire" mode has more potential than Evans. But what about all the other stuff in between. For example does Evans finish better at the rim than Mayo? That could be a huge factor in my decision.
     
    Boise Blazer, Mar 22, 2013
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  18. PtldPlatypus

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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    Mayo's advanced shooting stats
    Evans' advanced shooting stats

    Mayo has higher EFG%'s across the board (except from the 20-24 ft range, oddly). Evans takes over half his shots within 5 ft of the rim (which also explains why he gets to the line so much more), whereas 60% of Mayo's shots are from 15ft out or further.

    Stats can say whatever you want them to say (so people say). Basically, if you want a penetrating guard, you want Evans. If you want a perimeter scorer, you want Mayo.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Mar 22, 2013
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    I think we already have enough perimeter guards. We need ones to get to the line more.
     
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    Re: Are the Blazers big three good enough to wheel this team to a championship in the

    I will say this, Evans is a legit 6'6, while Mayo is only 6'4.
     
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