Freeman: Qualifying Offer For Blazers G Eric Maynor "Unlikely"

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  1. magnifier661

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    I think if we don't extend the QO to mayor; he is good as gone. At the time, there will be a "It's okay, we will get back more with the space"; then next season we will see just how important the loss of Maynor was.
     
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    Yes Siiir, especially with the addition of a good free agent 6th man.

    Hey HCP, got the graphic of Lillard's numbers before and after Maynard?
     
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    No question, letting Maynor go to free agency is a risk. But, there are very few open positions for PG in the league. Maynor will want to feel comfortable, which gives us a leg up IMO.
    It's far more important to use the cap space on potential starters first and then worry about the bench.

    If we bring back only Hickson and Maynor and add a $3-5M player in free agency - we're fighting for the 8th seed for a long time. It's NOT a good enough roster to really complete for WCF or Finals.
    We need to aim higher (like last year with Hibbert). It may mean a step back for a year or two in order to go further forward in year 3-4. Likely!!
     
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    Who is that player again we are saving our money for? (Either by unbalanced trade or FA) In my my mind there is the Nene/Okafur scenario. I forgot the other pipe dreams.
     
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    OK one more time. (I promise to write it down this time and tape it to my computer)

    How much will we have available if we offer ZERO qualifying offers to our FA's?
    And ....how much will we have if we only offer it to Maynor?
    And how soon can Maynor sign.

    The cap hold goes down after Maynor signs, so if he signed for 4 million per, how much would we have for an unbalanced trade in say late July?
     
  6. Harry's Raincoat

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    If no one is offered a QO; the Blazers should have about $13M to spend in free agency. Maynor's cap hold is $5.8M. Subtract it from cap space.
    If Maynor signs a contract - cap "hold" goes completely away and is replaced by the contract amount.
     
  7. magnifier661

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    I am hoping that we give the QO; then use Freeland, 2nd rounder or Barton and TE (5 million) to trade for Gortat and Frye. In this scenario we could retain hickson too.

    Then resign Maynor for 3 million per, Hickson for 5-6 million per (since we would still have his bird rights) and Have Gortat. Frye is the price of doing business in this scenario.

    Starting line-up of: Lillard, Matthews, Batum, Aldridge, Gortat
    Bench of: Hickson, Maynor, Claver, Leonard and Frye (most likely not playing though).
     
  8. KeepOnRollin

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    I am almost positive that you can't combine the Trade Exception (TE) with another player in a trade. In this case we shouldn't need to though since we would have the cap space (assuming you took out Frye).
     
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    Hickson is a UFA, and I don't think he comes back here to play on the bench. I just don't see it happening.
     
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    I see it as 13 - 4= 9 million. 9 Million is a good chunk of change to use in an unbalanced trade. Combine it with Freeland and we should be in good shape.

    Offer Maynor the QO. Sign him for 4, then make a trade.
     
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    No Phoenix would just receive a TE because of our lopsided trade. We wouldn't use a TE in the trade. We would give them a TE from the trade. I hope that made more sense.
     
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    That is the gamble, but it's what we can offer. If he decides not to come over; then we have 6 million to offer someone else.
     
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    If we did that, why wouldn't Maynor just accept the QO? $5.8 million is above his market value. So, he gets overpaid for a year then becomes an unrestricted free agent. If I'm Maynor's agent, I'd be all over that shit.

    Then the second Maynor accepts the QO, the Blazers cap space goes down by 5.8 million to about $7.2 million - not exactly what you need to land a starter that will "move the needle".

    No wonder Olshey says we won't offer Maynor the QO. Better to not tender the QO and see if we can sign him for less later - exactly like we did with Hickson last summer. We got our player back, but for less money AND got the chance to offer big bucks to Hibbert, too. Seems like a good strategy. Renounce and swing for the fences. If you whiff, go back and resign your guy for less than the QO. This seems to be Olshey's strategy.

    BNM
     
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    Isn't his QO just for 3.2 MIL? It is only a cap hold of 5.8 until he signs the QO. 3.2 MIL a year for him sounds about what he would expect to get on the open market. Don't see why he wouldn't take it.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Oh sorry, I thought I read somewhere the QO was $5.8 million. If it's only $3.2 mil, then please ignore my comments above.

    BNM
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    This is where I read it...

    Should have went back to the original source...

    "Maynor’s qualifying offer is $3.4 million, with a hefty $5.85 million cap hold that would eat a substantial amount of the Blazers’ offseason spending money."

    BNM
     
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    Gortat might be a good use of our cap space. Although I hope Olshey swings higher!

    This team needs someone to clean the boards on Offense and Defense (like Hickson), a capable backup to Lillard (we seem to have found that in Maynor) and a slashing wing (someone like OJ Mayo, Shabazz).
    Then we still need development from Claver, Barton and Freeland.
     
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    Who is higher then Gortat that we can get? I don't see us getting someone like Dwight Howard.
     
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    Yep. It is 3.2 or 3.4. I have heard both numbers.
     
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    That's why I say give it to him. If maynor doesn't get over 3.4 million and stays with our club; I'm willing to accept another trial year. We still have his bird rights; which won't matter much the season after. If we don't extend his the QO; then we lose his bird rights.
     

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