Exactly. Faith and atheism are not. Logic and atheism are not. Reason and atheism are not. Whatever leads you to reject theism.
Actually wrong. Until you can prove to me that the coin can land that many times; then it's just a faith driven opinion. You can use all the empirical evidence to support your probability; but until its actual; and not happening just once; you are using faith in what you believe. Sorry doesn't work that way. Try again.
The atheist and its literal term is "rejection of theism". If you reject theism; then you either "believe without proof" or "have enough proof to support reasoning why you don't believe". Since that proof doesn't exist; it's faith. There is nothing wrong with the word "faith"; except most atheist or agnostic used it negatively against theist. The only problem is it is actually "literally speaking" exactly what drives the atheist.
faith is that you believe in something even though you can't prove it. You know it's true, but you can't prove it. Agnostics say you can't prove it, so I don't believe it's true or false.
Exactly!!!! I have no problem with that way if thinking. What I have a problem with is when an atheist will openly proclaim god doesn't exist, then openly admit it isn't by faith. There is nothing wrong with having faith god doesn't exist. I've never said this was negative. The problem is most atheists hate faith and atheism associated together.
I guess it proves my point about your lack of intelligence. Let's change it a bit and see if it clarifies anything for you: A) I hate ___ (race). One of several reasons is... vs B) I hate it when ___ (race) does ... Go around saying (A) when you mean (B) and see what reactions you get.
There's been ZERO proof (evidence). Where it's claimed god is responsible for something, there comes along a rational and Reasoned and repeatable cause instead. Given zero evidence and all the time and things that are claimed to be his work, it's far more likely (odds) that he doesn't exist at all.
I wouldn't expect you to have read the thread, since you wouldn't have a chance at understanding or keeping up.
Of course it was dismissive. I don't need to continue a conversation with somebody speaking in hyperbole instead of the topic at hand. Massive lies! Dangerous lies!
Faith is the belief in something where there is no reason to believe in that something. That's fine. You're told by some authority figure in church garb to believe and you do, on faith. What you awkwardly claim is faith is where I look outside my house at 12 noon every day and the sun is up and it's fairly well lit. I can expect, not on faith but on previous history and empirical evidence, that if I look outside tomorrow at 12 noon, the sun will be up and it wil be fairly well lit.
NO proof. NO evidence. That's why don't embrace theism. I don't reject it. I'm not a believer, but I don't reject it.
You are right! There is significant proof that the sun will rise! Glad you made that clear. Now give me the empirical evidence that proves God does not exist? Give me the proof that you don't require faith that god does not exist.
You have it backward. There is no "sun rose" evidence that god exists. There isn't any evidence at all. I'd think even a tiny shred of evidence would make a huge number of converts. Nobody has to prove there is no god. I repeat. Nobody has to prove there is no god.
Glad you admit you are agnostic. It's logical Also glad you admit atheism is a faith. Um news flash Denny. I don't deny believing in god requires faith. I am showing not believing in god also requires faith. Our unicorn vs no unicorn debate has begun! Yes you don't require proof when you have faith! 100% correct sir!
I've claimed to be agnostic and not atheist. Atheism does not require faith of any kind. The sun rises thing is not faith - it's enough to convince people that the sun will rise tomorrow based upon measurable experience and empirical observation. But it seems you get it. Belief in god is right up there with believing in unicorns, santa clause, and the easter bunny.
